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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Ohio |
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| Theme wrote: |
| ...when you consider the lost wealth from not being in real property over time - it just does not make any sense to live in a trailer... I guess it is the inability to see this loss of potential wealth as the factor that loses me with this segment of the population. |
Many of them probably have bad credit, little to no real assets and so no ability to afford a down payment to purchase land, apartment or house. |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Ohio |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
| Theme wrote: |
| ...when you consider the lost wealth from not being in real property over time - it just does not make any sense to live in a trailer... I guess it is the inability to see this loss of potential wealth as the factor that loses me with this segment of the population. |
Many of them probably have bad credit, little to no real assets and so no ability to afford a down payment to purchase land, apartment or house. |
While that may be true, it does not address their attitude that living in a trailer park is somehow not strange or at least better than an apartment.
But I will even counter that in another way - from experience over a long period of time with specific people , recently with a retiree of Rockwell Collins the biggest employer in Cedar Rapids and a worldwide company.
Met a woman there who had retired after FOURTY years of service - drove a nice car and had a pension from Rockwell. Unless there is something that drove her from her nice house in the suburbs that she could have afforded, she should not have been in that trailer - nor should my wife's co-worker at the Post Office who at 63 now, just bought a house rather than the trailer she lived in for years.
No.
This is antidotal I know, but too many live in trailer parks because they simply want to. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Ohio |
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| Theme wrote: |
| While that may be true, it does not address their attitude that living in a trailer park is somehow not strange or at least better than an apartment. |
Somehow not strange? YOU sound like the one with issues!
As for which is better, my apartment has no windows on the sides, just a small one by the door and one big one in the living room area. A trailer park might provide more natural sunlight because of more windows, has a yard, has neighbours one might actually get to know... the only trailer park I'm familiar with is for seniors in my home town, and the old people there knew each other, kept their lawns clean, seemed like a peaceful and boring but relaxed retirement place. I'm sure they were happier there than in concrete apartment slabs. A lot of apartments are no more than modern day caves.
Too many live in trailer parks because they want to? Too many? Geez, what's your problem. Is it a class consciousness thing with you? You seem angry to me. |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Ohio |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
| ...the only trailer park I'm familiar with is for seniors in my home town, |
I am trying to educate , for those who would listen, that a lot of wealth is lost by trailer park occupants, considering lot rent and the high cost of utilities.
And you, who seem to have very little experience about anything, take issue with that. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Ohio |
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| Theme wrote: |
| Louis VI wrote: |
| ...the only trailer park I'm familiar with is for seniors in my home town, |
I am trying to educate , for those who would listen, that a lot of wealth is lost by trailer park occupants, considering lot rent and the high cost of utilities. |
Now you DO sound angry. What is it to you if a bunch of seniors decide to spend their hard earned money paying pad rent in a trailer park? The example I presented did not involve the sort of "It'd be wiser to invest in a house long term" reasoning you mentioned.
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| And you, who seem to have very little experience about anything, take issue with that. |
 Now you are just being nasty. I am neither young nor ignorant. And you don't need to educate us, really we get it, it ain't rocket science and we have university degrees, most of us with some basic economic courses as part of it. Anyways, who am I to tell you to can the attitude?
Good day Theme. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Seniors can do whatever they damn well please with their money. If they want to rent a trailer or a penthouse, rather than own a home, it's their right. Unless you're squabbling over their will, what's it to you? How much higher are utilities going to be for a tiny little trailer? A whopping 30 bucks? Those things are small! |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| How much higher are utilities going to be for a tiny little trailer? A whopping 30 bucks? Those things are small! |
NYC Gal may have been speaking rhetorically, but I'd like to see Theme answer this, given his stated purpose is to educate. From the perspective of total rent + utilities / square footage, what could one expect on average to pay per month for an apartment as opposed to a trailer in various parts of the country? He can limit himself to apartments in areas where one could reasonably expect to find trailer parks. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| How the F is that not assault?? |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: Get back on track |
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I would like to know how Seniors got to be the focus of this, as that was not my intention?
Many "snowbirds" live in trailers during their southern sojurn , yet own homes up north.
I believe "the King" had something to do with the move away from younger , working Americans who seem to have their "cult" of living in a trailer park and missing out on wealth accumulation like the 40 worker at Rockwell Collins I mentioned or the 63 year old postal worker who just recently purchased a real home.
As far as utilities go, I know that in the midwest heating bills can be 400 or 500 a month or more in the winter. Many apartments include heat in your rental payment - that is a little more than 30 bucks.
In any event, Seniors were never my targeted group , so lets get back on track. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Get back on track |
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| Theme wrote: |
I would like to know how Seniors got to be the focus of this, as that was not my intention?
Many "snowbirds" live in trailers during their southern sojurn , yet own homes up north.
I believe "the King" had something to do with the move away from younger , working Americans who seem to have their "cult" of living in a trailer park and missing out on wealth accumulation like the 40 worker at Rockwell Collins I mentioned or the 63 year old postal worker who just recently purchased a real home.
As far as utilities go, I know that in the midwest heating bills can be 400 or 500 a month or more in the winter. Many apartments include heat in your rental payment - that is a little more than 30 bucks.
In any event, Seniors were never my targeted group , so lets get back on track. |
Wouldn't rent be significantly higher? |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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here more American hijinks at the drive-through....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pyW6w5B7Aw
If you're in America, don't mess with the chicken.... it feeds families! as shown around the 30 second mark, it's a matter of life and death...  |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Get back on track |
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| Theme wrote: |
As far as utilities go, I know that in the midwest heating bills can be 400 or 500 a month or more in the winter. ( for apartments that do not include heat) Many apartments include heat in your rental payment - that is a little more than 30 bucks.
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You would to look at each individual market to determine that.
Back to my point - apartments and homes that do not include heat often cost four or five hundred dollars in the winter to heat. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Get back on track |
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| Theme wrote: |
| Theme wrote: |
As far as utilities go, I know that in the midwest heating bills can be 400 or 500 a month or more in the winter. ( for apartments that do not include heat) Many apartments include heat in your rental payment - that is a little more than 30 bucks.
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You would to look at each individual market to determine that.
Back to my point - apartments and homes that do not include heat often cost four or five hundred dollars in the winter to heat. |
But my point is: wouldn't apartments that DO include heat cost significantly more per month? |
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Theme
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa
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| Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject: Get back on track 2nd request |
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The real question is: Why would anyone think that renting a trailer , as opposed to buying real property would not be better.
Those who rent an apartment are not operating under the illusion that they "own a home."
My focus is on young middle income earners who have the credit rating and down payment needed to buy a home.
I have cited examples of a long term Postal employee who finally bought a home, and a 40 year employee of a major company who never did, and retired in her mobile ome park. The first one clearly had the means but chose not to for the longest time, and the second may or may not have had the means, but they sure held a job for a long time and having held that job for 40 years, should have been able to get her act together at some point.
So instead of the wealth from real property , she has nothing but a declining asset and lot rent. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Get back on track 2nd request |
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| Theme wrote: |
The real question is: Why would anyone think that renting a trailer , as opposed to buying real property would not be better.
Those who rent an apartment are not operating under the illusion that they "own a home."
My focus is on young middle income earners who have the credit rating and down payment needed to buy a home.
I have cited examples of a long term Postal employee who finally bought a home, and a 40 year employee of a major company who never did, and retired in her mobile ome park. The first one clearly had the means but chose not to for the longest time, and the second may or may not have had the means, but they sure held a job for a long time and having held that job for 40 years, should have been able to get her act together at some point.
So instead of the wealth from real property , she has nothing but a declining asset and lot rent. |
Actually anybody who bought a house in the last decade (i the US) has not seen their wealth grow from that property. |
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