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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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10 years, eh? Fair play! Have you married a Korean woman or a fellow NET? My friend from Omagh was in Bundang for a year a few years ago, and she quite liked it.
....Surely the best place to experience good crisps is inside pubs?!
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She's Korean. We have a beautiful 16 month old daughter now.
Bundang is quite a soft landing for first-timers in Korea. It's not hard-core Korea.....like a country town or something. It's quite westernized. Very popular with foreigners.......a bit boring though. Middle class, sanitized and way too much churchy folk!
I'm also perplexed why some here think your education will be a problem......I don't see why so......as long as you appreciate that Koreans more than likely will not understand any teaching methods other than the traditional ones.......but just because you got that kind of education doesn't really mean you intend to teach in that way! |
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SLK
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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I know, nuts isn't it?! 
In truth, ask ANY Steiner former pupil and they will tell you a thousand stories where they have encountered similar reactions from people.
I doubt Steiner will ever shake off that Hemp-woven, Tree-huggin' perception?!
The fact that I've both attended and taught in mainstream schools, and expressed my desire to experience something NEW surely indicates that I'm not likely to start trying to explain to Korean kiddies how to conjugate verbs through the medium of basket-weaving...?!
Big congrats on the Korean/Irish kiddie addition to your life, too! 
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SLK
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the edit OldFatFarang; I appreciate that.. and for the well-wishes...I hope I enjoy it, too!
I read with interest your other posts about your love of Thailand.
This was my first experience of Asia, and will always hold a very special place in my heart. Good luck with your retirement there.
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oddly, I think the Irish see lots of themselves in cultures they dig 
Ok, I may be slightly biased in that being Irish I naturally would say that we are generally a rather genial lot, and as long as there's a bit of craic to be had, sure, we'll give anything a go!
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The Irish in a nutshell - you really think you are 'genial' whereas the truth is that amongst some rather decent types - there are lots of arseholes. Like with any other nationality in Korea. Some Irish I met were fine but the majority weren't up to much and were as miserable and boring as the people back home. (I am English)
Which brings me on to my next point - the Irish are probably the most similar in character to the English - sore point I know but the truth. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Ahhh good ole Rudolf Steiner...I for one enjoyed eurythmics, crocheting, not using certain kinds of writing implements, and half the people drinking soy milk. That and our teacher read us two books: Exodus (I guess he threw in parts of Deuteronomy, Leviticus and Numbers) and The Black Cauldron. Good Choices. |
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SLK
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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I would agree in the sense that I think Northerners - such as your good self - are in the majority a lot less arsey than those from the south of England.
Don't get me wrong - there's nothing more galling than being on holiday...such as I was on a really secluded Thai beach last December; and out of nowhere hearing the worst example of my country's accent falling from the lips of the lowest possible specimens of Irish people.
A little part of me died that day.....shudder...
I did say "generally" - implying that I fully accept there are obviously many exceptions to the rule that we're as genial and I say.
@Steelrails.... EURYTHMICS?!?!? Yeah, Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart were regulars in our school...it was the early 90's...a dry spell for them...just before she tore the sheeeet out of her feet on all that glass, eh?
...unless you mean Eurythmy? ;p
hee hee!
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I would agree in the sense that I think Northerners - such as your good self - are in the majority a lot less arsey than those from the south of England.
Don't get me wrong - there's nothing more galling than being on holiday...such as I was on a really secluded Thai beach last December; and out of nowhere hearing the worst example of my country's accent falling from the lips of the lowest possible specimens of Irish people.
A little part of me died that day.....shudder...
I did say "generally" - implying that I fully accept there are obviously many exceptions to the rule that we're as genial and I say.
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We all have to put up with the more galling of our countrymen wherever we go. I do think however the reason northerners are more friendly than southerners in the UK is because of the Irish influence in our communities - not that they are more friendly but more that they like to talk - to anyone! I think the Irish (like the people in the north of England) like to talk and it doesn't matter one jot if we know them or not. 
As for Korea - it takes some time getting used to. It took me four months but I soon got to like the place. I am glad I had that transition rather than 'everything is brilliant but now four months later..' Not many people land in Korea and have it plain sailing for the year (or more) that they are there, but you sound like one of those genial Irish people so I think you'll be allright.
I'll say this about the Irish (in general) they are not afraid to put their hand in their pocket to have a good time - unlike the yanks (in general) |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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"We all have to put up with the more galling of our countrymen wherever we go. I do think however the reason northerners are more friendly than southerners in the UK is because of the Irish influence in our communities - not that they are more friendly but more that they like to talk - to anyone! I think the Irish (like the people in the north of England) like to talk and it doesn't matter one jot if we know them or not. "
Quote function not working, sorry.
It's not that Southerners are unfriendly it's just that we don't want to talk to every random over gregarious stranger we meet. Some of us are happy being alone and maybe sense we will have nothing in common with you so would rather not waste the time.
I find it utterly socially irritating when a loud Northern type tries to invade my privacy or the privcay of my group uninvited anly to usually end up being rude, overbearing and obnoxious.
I hate it when Adjoishis who can speak english do the same thinking that the fact they speak our language gives them the right to interrupt us mid conversation and assume that whatever it is they have to say is more important....
I'm not saying Southerners can't be rude, overbearing and obnoxious.
I just think we value privacy more. Be invited through that barrier and you usually end up with a friend for life. Attempt to break through it and recieve the cold shoulder.
The image of the cold Southerners (Or cold English people to other, particulalry Southern Europeans) is a myth perpetuated by shallowness.
Just because we aren't all gregarious on the outside - doesn't mean there isn't depth (which I often find lacking in the gregarious types) underneath. |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Quote function not working, sorry.
It's not that Southerners are unfriendly it's just that we don't want to talk to every random over gregarious stranger we meet. Some of us are happy being alone and maybe sense we will have nothing in common with you so would rather not waste the time.
I find it utterly socially irritating when a loud Northern type tries to invade my privacy or the privcay of my group uninvited anly to usually end up being rude, overbearing and obnoxious.
I hate it when Adjoishis who can speak english do the same thinking that the fact they speak our language gives them the right to interrupt us mid conversation and assume that whatever it is they have to say is more important....
I'm not saying Southerners can't be rude, overbearing and obnoxious.
I just think we value privacy more. Be invited through that barrier and you usually end up with a friend for life. Attempt to break through it and recieve the cold shoulder.
The image of the cold Southerners (Or cold English people to other, particulalry Southern Europeans) is a myth perpetuated by shallowness.
Just because we aren't all gregarious on the outside - doesn't mean there isn't depth (which I often find lacking in the gregarious types) underneath. |
I agree, on the whole - northerners are not more friendlier than southerners but they like to talk more so it seems that way - they don't care who to half of the time and are more than happy if they never see the person that have been happily chatting again - is it superficial? I suppose it is. In London, I have had people come up to me for a chat and I have found Londoners to be quite gregarious as a rule - but I know London cannot be used as a good example of the south no more than Newcastle can be used for the north.
One thing about northerners in their defence - they aren't social spastics like most ESL types in Korea who shit themselves if they spot another white person within 300 yards of them - how many times have I seen the look of horror/fear (females adopt the look of disgust or disdain - no matter how ugly or non-interested I am in wanting to shag them) because I have decided to sit in the same subway car with another foreigner nearby. If the majority of ESL teachers in Korea were from the north of England, Wales and Ireland - we would have a better, more vibrant community as a whole - and thats not a bad thing is it? |
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SLK
Joined: 08 Aug 2010
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I've been living in Brighton (who, on the whole, LOVES itself!) since 2006, and my ex was from Portsmouth - and a lot of people I know from say, Milton Keynes downwards have this real chip on their shoulder about "The North".
Both as a place, and those who hail from there. Yet if I actually ask anyone, they've barely been there?!
I agree that the Irish/Northern mix means we generally get on well, similarly an affinity with the Welsh and Scots as you say.
I wouldn't definitely class Jason Manford as one of my all-time top comedy pics - but his take on this topic was quite accurate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL6EfmVPZS8&feature=related
from around 7:30 in.... |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm from Boise, Idaho in the USA.
My mom is Latina from Texas and my dad is wonderbread from Minnesota. I am a normal average crackerish American as my mother wasn't super involved on teaching us anything about her native tongue (Spanish) or her family's culture. Though I've spent a bit more time with my grandma since she moved to Idaho and know a little bit about old Mexican Catholic myths and folktales.
I also grew up military brat which is a wonderful dichotomy because you are placed in a totally new culture at a young age and then safely sealed from it in a literally gated, strangely homogeneous community.
--- hi. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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*pats the Irish on the back*
Good job, fellows, good job. I'm always a fan of self-serving stereotypes. People from where I'm from, and that is from somewhere, are all frickin' awesome people. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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*pats the Irish on the back*
Good job, fellows, good job. I'm always a fan of self-serving stereotypes. People from where I'm from, and that is from somewhere, are all frickin' awesome people. |
That's strange.....because you don't seem to be awesome at all!! |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| chellovek wrote: |
*pats the Irish on the back*
Good job, fellows, good job. I'm always a fan of self-serving stereotypes. People from where I'm from, and that is from somewhere, are all frickin' awesome people. |
That's strange.....because you don't seem to be awesome at all!! |
Touche! |
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Hotwire
Joined: 29 Aug 2010
Location: Multiverse
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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*pats the Irish on the back*
Good job, fellows, good job. I'm always a fan of self-serving stereotypes. People from where I'm from, and that is from somewhere, are all frickin' awesome people. |
Yeah I have to say there's nowt so painful as being in a bar in England and a group of drnken Irishmen walk in and start waxing on about how lyrical and poetic the Irish are and having the gift of the gab etc... Talk about circle jerk...
YOU might think so in your country, but WE find it annoying and glib. You don't have a 'gift' of the gab, just too much gab and no one else is falling for it.
Maybe it's just me. I dunno. I've never been able to get on with Scots neither. |
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