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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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 Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Eating raw Korean eggs? |
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| guava wrote: |
| Nuggets wrote: |
| What does everyone think about eating Korean eggs raw? Anyone have experience with this? Thoughts? |
I didn't know Koreans laid eggs. |
Old news dude. Old news. |
lol, nice |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| I like my eggs pretty runny as it is. Are there recipes that call for topping with a raw egg? |
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Capo
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| machoman wrote: |
| refrigeration for eggs isn't necessary. america is one of the few countries that does that (apparently.) |
it will make them last slightly longer. personally i usually don't refridgerate mine unless i think i won't get through them that quickly and then i'll do half and replenish room temp eggs when they fall below 3 |
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Capo
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| DorkothyParker wrote: |
| I like my eggs pretty runny as it is. Are there recipes that call for topping with a raw egg? |
육회 (yook hae) is basically raw beef topped with raw egg and seasame seeds and eaten with sliced pear.....it is delicious. |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I had it at a restaurant but there was no raw egg or pear. 
I think it had sesame oil too, though and it was delicious none the less.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but if they will serve raw egg and raw beef, why do they cook the hell out of steaks and beef that isn't yuk hae? |
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Capo
Joined: 09 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| u just got to ask for it rare. However steaks are often cut too thin here... |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| DorkothyParker wrote: |
I had it at a restaurant but there was no raw egg or pear.
I think it had sesame oil too, though and it was delicious none the less.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but if they will serve raw egg and raw beef, why do they cook the hell out of steaks and beef that isn't yuk hae? |
Because they like it either fully raw or well done, nothing in between.
Personally I don't like yuk hoe, only because they put way too much sesame in it and you can't taste anything else. |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Good luck with your fitness program. Do your research, try some experimenting, don't rely on one source, and think critically.
If you want a place to start, look at Jack LaLanne. He ate raw eggs as part of a larger program. One amazing dude! If you can follow in his footsteps, you will be doing pretty good.
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| I've read this is actually better for the eggs, as refrigeration destroys some of the proteins, best to store them somewhere cool. |
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following your reasoning.
A) Do you have any scientific source for this "refrigeration destroys some of the proteins"?
B) Refrigeration is bad, so you should store eggs somewhere cool. Umm, isn't that what a refrigerator does?
C) The eggs that you see in Korea that are not refrigerated, are they "stored someplace cool"? Are Korean eggs transported in refrigerated trucks, or on flatbed trucks exposed to the sun and heat (and truck exhaust)? Are they left sitting outside the store in the sun by the truck driver?
I suspect if you leave an egg without refrigeration long enough, it will destroy some of the proteins and vitamins. Glutamine is very sensitive to heat, so eggs left sitting out in the sun could get warm enough, I think, to destroy this important amino acid. As to being able to tell better if the egg is unsafe, I doubt people who got sick from salmonella could tell the egg was bad. Unless you know where your eggs came from, I would be careful, especially in the summer.
However, it is true that refrigeration of eggs is not absolutely necessary. But this assumes the weather is fairly cool, and preferably cloudy. Also, it assumes the egg hasn't been washed. Washing the egg removes a protective coating needed for unrefrigerated eggs -- that's why the eggs you've seen are dirty, and dirty here is good. American eggs are obviously spotless, so I wouldn't leave them unrefrigerated for long periods. Most Korean eggs look pretty clean to me, so I don't think they should be left unrefrigerated, either.
Once upon a time, Korea was an agrarian society without refrigeration. The eggs were raised near the village and sold within days of being laid. This was safe. Koreans are very traditional. Some obviously still think refrigeration of eggs is not necessary. Sometimes those stacks of unrefrigerated eggs are fresher than the refrigerated ones -- check the date. But I've gotten some eggs that obviously weren't fresh -- the whites were runny. And I don't think the date was helpful; I think it was due to not being refrigerated for too long. It's hit and miss in Korea.
As to the health benefits of raw eggs, there may well be some. I doubt drinking vs. eating makes a wit of difference, though. If you want to eat raw eggs, why not make homemade mayonnaise? (Refrigerate it if you want to live.)
However, I do not recommend consuming raw eggs every day. Raw eggs can block the absorption of the vitamin biotin, and perhaps other nutrients. And if you are going to eat raw food in Korea (or any food), it is a good idea to make sure you have your hepatitis A vaccination series.
One other point. Eggs can absorb odors around them. So if eggs are stacked near say, kerosene, that's what they are going to taste like. Eggs left sitting around in a store are more likely to pick up odors (dry fish?) than properly refrigerated eggs.
On the whole (with the above caveats), I would say Korean eggs are pretty good. I wonder how they get those deep orange yolks?
A rotten egg is going to be obvious, refrigerated or unrefrigerated. If you eat one accidentally, it is an experience you will never forget. And I've seen them in Korea. So, as another poster suggested, crack the eggs into a bowl and examine them first (even if you are going to cook them). This will also tell you whether the egg white is old and runny. Oh, and if you buy 30 eggs at a time, about the 25th they probably will get a little tired, don't you think?
There's a surprising amount of nutritional nonsense floating around the Web.* It seems some people believe what they want to believe. On the plus side, it's not too difficult to do a little research to check these claims.
You need to separate the raw egg issue from the refrigeration issue. If you want to consume raw eggs, and you can get them direct from a farmer, then don't worry about refrigeration (in the U.S. you can do that in some areas). If not, assuming you live in an urban area, I would only eat refrigerated raw eggs. Any potential health benefit from non-refrigeration is likely offset by deterioration due to non-refrigeration.
I say, go ahead and try it. I might even try it myself. I've eaten raw eggs in the past, and I survived, as have plenty of others. Please let us know if you notice any health benefits from the raw eggs. And make sure to let us know if you die.
Good luck!
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* Here's an exercise. Someone told me recently that cooking with aluminum cookware causes cancer. Sound plausible? Try checking this claim on the Web. Hint: It turns out this rumor (urban legend) has been floating around since the 1920s. Guess who started it?
Often, nutritional misinformation is spread by someone with a product to sell. Soybeans are good example. Chocolate is not a health food, either. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| ^....great post. |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Hindsight wrote: |
| * Here's an exercise. Someone told me recently that cooking with aluminum cookware causes cancer. Sound plausible? Try checking this claim on the Web. |
I googled aluminum health and came up with thousands of links with information that aluminum is a health hazard that causes various illnesses and one way of consuming aluminum is from using aluminum cookware. |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever you say.
Last edited by Hindsight on Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:55 am; edited 1 time in total |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:52 am Post subject: |
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You wrote "try checking this claim on the web"
I said its like looking for a needle in a haystack of information that explains that aluminum is indeed a health hazard.
As I said there are thousands of links, here's one. If you don't like this one you can google aluminum health or aluminum neurotoxin yourself and take your pick.
I'm not making you into an apologist or anything else.
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Title: Aluminum, a neurotoxin which affects diverse metabolic reactions.
Author: Joshi, J G
Citation: Biofactors. 1990 Jul; 2(3): 163-9
Abstract: Experimental evidence is summarized to support the hypothesis that chronic exposure to low levels of aluminum may lead to neurological disorders. These disorders result from defective phosphorylation--dephosphorylation reactions, reduced glucose utilization and site-specific damage inflicted by free radicals produced by altered iron metabolism. The brain is a highly compartmentalized organ. Therefore, a co-localization of critical mass of metabolic errors rather than a single event may be essential to precipitate a neural disease. Aluminum appears to participate in formulating this critical mass. Patients with dialysis dementia get partial relief by desferroxamine which chelates aluminum. However, it also chelates iron and therefore limits its applicability. While the specific chelator for aluminum is yet to be made available, exercising a caution in aluminum intake appears prudent.
Review References: 47 refs.
Notes: None
Language: English
Publication Type: Journal-Article; Review; Review,-Academic
Keywords: Aluminum pharmacology : Brain Chemistry drug effects : Nervous System Diseases chemically induced
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By the way I checked the Jack La Lanne raw egg claim and I found numerous reports and interviews explaining that his diet includes cooked eggs and egg whites. I found nothing about raw eggs. Raw vegs yes.
Here is a video of Jack LaLanne giving nutritional advice..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuW3RfWJ1H0
These menus include meat, fowl and eggs.
Broiled, poached soft boiled or scrambled eggs. All eggs are cooked.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=154507.0
His breakfast is at 11 a.m. He eats four to five pieces of fruit and gets protein from cooked egg whites.
"Once in a while I eat a turkey sandwich on whole wheat with avocado and tomato," he says.
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Who is correct about eating raw eggs, you or Jack LaLanne?
Don't settle for people who make claims without a shred of evidence to back them up.
There's a surprising amount of nutritional nonsense floating around the web.
People believe what they want to believe.
It's easy to do a little research to check these claims.
If you look on the web, you will find it. |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Apparently some posters here are so dense they can dangerously misunderstand anything more complex than a bumper sticker. |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Hindsight wrote: |
If you want a place to start, look at Jack LaLanne. He ate raw eggs as part of a larger program. One amazing dude! If you can follow in his footsteps, you will be doing pretty good.
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This thread is about raw eggs.
You say JL ate raw eggs.
I say I don't see any info to back it up.
I say I see info in which JL eats and advocates eating cooked eggs.
I provide multiple solid links to my assertions.
You don't.
Do your research, don't rely on one source, and think critically. |
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guava
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| ^....great post. |
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