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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
Soju is pure swill...just nasty, garbage stuff. Considering how Koreans pound the stuff, I'm amazed that they make it to 40.  |
Many years ago, while waiting for a movie to start at a cinema in Seoul, I was watching the pre-movie advertisements. The ad for Jinro showed a long line of steel vats and the announcer said, "We are very proud of our new porcelain-lined vats to produce Jinro Soju!"
In short, the stuff is bathtub gin. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| machoman wrote: |
i've read in an article that rice is illegal to be used in making alcohol. but apparently those days are over?
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Aren't some beers here made from rice? |
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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| You see, there's this thing called Google... |
Hold the phone! Tell me more about this "google" thing. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it can't be so bad for you because ajeossi's have been pounding back the stuff in its current form for over 40 years now so any terrible effects would be out there......
......a more interesting question would be why does the same amount in volume of soju get me more hammered than whiskey, vodka etc....?
A liter of soju would get me a fair bit drunker than a liter of whiskey......but the whiskey is almost double in alcohol content.......? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| machoman wrote: |
i've read in an article that rice is illegal to be used in making alcohol. but apparently those days are over?
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Aren't some beers here made from rice? |
I think Budweiser from the US is about 30% rice based. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the thing guys, it really does not matter what the ethyl alcohol in soju is made from. It just has to be some kind of sugary or starchy plant matter. No matter what carbohydrate they ferment, the end product of the distillation process is the same: C2H5OH. Then they just dilute it with water and sweeten it a little. That's all soju is. It's not better or worse for you than any other kind of liquor.
Totally different from a beverage like makgeolli where you're basically drinking the unfiltered rice mash along with your ethanol. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| warren pease wrote: |
| RMNC wrote: |
| You see, there's this thing called Google... |
Hold the phone! Tell me more about this "google" thing. |
What in tarnation is a phone? |
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Ukiyo-e
Joined: 19 Oct 2010
Location: The Floating World
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Essentially OP, soju is the crystal meth of alcohol. Cheap, a but funky to taste and gets you really buzzing very quickly and then throws you down a well the next day. I have never and would never do CM, but you know what I mean.. |
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warren pease
Joined: 12 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Ukiyo-e wrote: |
| Essentially OP, soju is the crystal meth of alcohol. Cheap, a but funky to taste and gets you really buzzing very quickly and then throws you down a well the next day. I have never and would never do CM, but you know what I mean.. |
Finally a reasonable answer.
And I don't know if I'm alone in this, but soju gives me far less of a hangover than say drinking crappy well liquor. I get a massive hangover if I have a couple shots of tequila or drink a bunch of vodka, but I can drink 2 to 3 bottles of soju without fear of hangover.
and now i'm off to mini stop to purchase W3,000 worth of bliss |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Technicalities of mass-produced Soju have all been mentioned so far, being diluted and added with stevioside, aspartam, etc.
There are less-promoted minor distilleries that produce Soju in its old-school definition, from rice and nothing else. The best example is 'Andong Soju' which is around 40% ABV, more expensive (28000 Won per 600ml bottle) than those evil green bottles, and harder to get. No nasty aftertaste.
Unless you must stick to some cheap booze, grab a bottle of true Soju and give it a go. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| warren pease wrote: |
| Ukiyo-e wrote: |
| Essentially OP, soju is the crystal meth of alcohol. Cheap, a but funky to taste and gets you really buzzing very quickly and then throws you down a well the next day. I have never and would never do CM, but you know what I mean.. |
Finally a reasonable answer.
And I don't know if I'm alone in this, but soju gives me far less of a hangover than say drinking crappy well liquor. I get a massive hangover if I have a couple shots of tequila or drink a bunch of vodka, but I can drink 2 to 3 bottles of soju without fear of hangover.
and now i'm off to mini stop to purchase W3,000 worth of bliss |
Well I think it ranges person to person. Personally soju gives me hangovers worse than anything else (except maybe several shots of crappy vodka or tequila).
Japanese dude I recently became friends with can drink 10+ beers and still act sober, no hangover the next day. Give him a couple shots and he's gone plus bad hangover. My 5 ft. tall ex girlfriend could outdrink me in tequila shots but she was toast if she consumed 2 drinks of any other alcoholic beverage. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| People who claim to have killer hangovers from soju are likely to have the exact same hangover, if not considerably worse, if they drink any other strong drink as quickly as soju tends to be drunk. Soju, being four-times stronger than most beers, half as strong as spirits and yet almost twice as strong as wine - and without tasting nice - is thereby one of those drinks that is used for binge drinking. Heavy drinkers are unlikely to notice any difference between being hungover from soju and being hungover from anything else. If they do find soju worse, that's likely to do with soju being consumed quickly, rather than from soju itself. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Louis VI wrote: |
Linguistically, the word soju is the Korean rendering of the Chinese "shaojiu", which literally means �burned liquor�.
It's been said soju came from Japan. Here's a more romantic Korean version of the history:
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Soju was first distilled around 1300s during the Mongol invasions of Korea. The Mongols had acquired the technique of distilling arak from the Persians during their invasion of Central Asia/Middle East around 1256, then it was subsequently introduced to Koreans and distilleries were set up around the city of Kaesong. Indeed, in the area surrounding Kaesong, soju is known as arak-ju.
From 1965 until 1991, in order to alleviate rice shortages, the Korean government prohibited the traditional direct distillation of soju from fermented grain. Instead, highly distilled ethanol from any source was mixed with water and flavorings to create diluted soju . Although the prohibition had been lifted, cheap soju continues to be made this way. The Korean government regulates the alcohol content of diluted soju to less than 35%. |
http://articleleader.info/soju-bus-truck-wash-machine-tunnel-car-wash-systems/
One local told me soju is now usually made from petroleum, in effect, industrial waste. If so, it's just like the fluoride in toothpaste back home. |
I am fairly certain that it is the other way around. The Japanese got soju from the Koreans, but mostly this Japanese soju (shoju or shochu) phenomena occurs in Kyushu. In fact, it only made its appearance in Japan 500 years ago whereas the sake tradition is around 1,000 years old. Incidentally, it is interesting that the wikipedia article on Japanese soju (shochu) also lists its origin as coming from Persia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dch%C5%AB |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| People who claim to have killer hangovers from soju are likely to have the exact same hangover, if not considerably worse, if they drink any other strong drink as quickly as soju tends to be drunk. Soju, being four-times stronger than most beers, half as strong as spirits and yet almost twice as strong as wine - and without tasting nice - is thereby one of those drinks that is used for binge drinking. Heavy drinkers are unlikely to notice any difference between being hungover from soju and being hungover from anything else. If they do find soju worse, that's likely to do with soju being consumed quickly, rather than from soju itself. |
Yeah, alcohol is alcohol, it's all the same, the only real variables are how much of it are you putting in your bloodstream and how quickly. Being dehydrated or on an empty stomach will cause your BAC% to rise quicker. But most of the theories about which type of alcohol gives you what kind of hangover or whatever, are bull. |
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machoman
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
| People who claim to have killer hangovers from soju are likely to have the exact same hangover, if not considerably worse, if they drink any other strong drink as quickly as soju tends to be drunk. Soju, being four-times stronger than most beers, half as strong as spirits and yet almost twice as strong as wine - and without tasting nice - is thereby one of those drinks that is used for binge drinking. Heavy drinkers are unlikely to notice any difference between being hungover from soju and being hungover from anything else. If they do find soju worse, that's likely to do with soju being consumed quickly, rather than from soju itself. |
Yeah, alcohol is alcohol, it's all the same, the only real variables are how much of it are you putting in your bloodstream and how quickly. Being dehydrated or on an empty stomach will cause your BAC% to rise quicker. But most of the theories about which type of alcohol gives you what kind of hangover or whatever, are bull. |
what's worse is when people say "____ makes me go crazy, but ____ is more of a laid back drunk." drunk is drunk, unless you're drinking red wine, which gives you a different kind of effect. |
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