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Thinking about signing this contract...any input?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2 hours of prep? Who needs that?? Its ridiculous.


That says it all now doesn't it.... Laughing
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jazblanc77



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poly Bundang is a ****load of work. You work for every won that you get. Go to their website and you might start to get an idea of what it is like. I applied to them last year and decided against taking the job. Retournee schools like this try to buff themselves up as being something special but the conditions are the same as all other hogwans just more work. I would personally recommend checking out some private elementary/middle schools. They have the same kind of programme but you get paid better and much better holidays.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazblanc77,

Good option indeed. The OP could consider this.
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phaedrus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

osangrl wrote:
no its sounds awful. 2 hours of prep? Who needs that?? Its ridiculous.


The ridiculous thing isn't the two hours of prep, but the prep on top of six or so hours of teaching. I do three hours of prep per day. I also only teach a grand total of two hours and forty minutes.





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jazblanc77



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP is also qualified enough that they should just skip the hagwan route altogether.
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Buff



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your input guys... I decided against the job and took another position with a little less pay but way better hours... all the other stuff's the same. Oh and someone on here thought I was a boy...I'm a girl. Teehee. Now that that's cleared up... yeah. Maybe I'll be talkin' at ya more in the near future... I leave for K in a month.
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phaedrus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buff wrote:
Thanks for all your input guys... I decided against the job and took another position with a little less pay but way better hours... all the other stuff's the same. Oh and someone on here thought I was a boy...I'm a girl. Teehee. Now that that's cleared up... yeah. Maybe I'll be talkin' at ya more in the near future... I leave for K in a month.


I think you'll enjoy having more free time if you're coming to Korea for the first time. Your downtime will help you adjust and settle in better.
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JMILTON



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just my 2 cents worth. figure some simple math. a 6 year basic contract is 2 million with an average of 20,000 won an hour over time. If you work 1 hour over time a day, you make an extra 400-500,000 won a month. Anyone with just a simple degree and no experience can make the same money as that contract with only being at work 7 hours instead of 8. If you are a devoted teacher than you do prep work, but unfortunately most don't. Though you have a degree in TESOL it is only a bachelors and to get the most covetted you need a Masters or a few years experience, not just some experience.
I think the important thing is to know what you want out of your time teaching. For me it is more important to teach material that will give me valuable experience. If you work for a cram school, singing jacks a mechanic for 30 minutes is not going to prepare you for the depths of language training. If you can find a school that you know the curriculum and know the exact levels that you will teach then you can assess if the job suits you. Money, apartment and the town you live in are all important but if it is the teaching experience that you are after than those should be the questions you are asking. Otherwise just go work for some easy hagwon work 7 hours and get paid the same 2.4-2.5 with little energy or prep.
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, I see your school right out my window. If you work there, look me up and we'll have a burger at the awesome hamburger joint on the bottom floor below the school (Mario's).

Personally, in my limited knowledge of Korea that i've gained over two years, I go for the easy 10am to 4pm jobs (or 9am start). That leaves my mornings and evenings open for ... um... er... socializing.

I worked one shift that was 3 to 9 or 4 to 10 depending on the day, and I'll never do that again, if I have a choice. Got lucky this time, and a high-school saw my resume on englishspectrum. They hired me 2 1/2 months ago. Really lovin' it, and I feel like I've gained about 300 daughters.

I don't have anything new to add to what's been said, other that to ask you where your housing will be? Do you know? I'm curious where the Poly folks live. I see lots of westerners walking around near here sometimes, and I always assume they are from Poly.
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osangrl



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That says it all now doesn't it....



What does it say homer? Im curious. If its a dig at my teaching..... you have no idea.... im probably twice the teacher you are.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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im probably twice the teacher you are.


What a totally ridiculous statement to make osangrl.
Laughing

I did not call in question your teaching... Laughing
What I did was say that people who consider prep time a waste of time are perhaps missing the big picture.

As for you being 'twice' the teacher I am..I am curious my GI loving friend, how would you go about quantifying that statement...how do you measure the fact that you would be twice the teacher I am?
Laughing
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well just my 20 won.

2.4 or 2.5 sounds good. But usually will mean a lot of work. If money is real important and you aren't sure about making any outside the hagwon, then take it. If you want to relax a bit and just make the regular 2.0 or so than find something else.

2.4 or 2.5 all legal at a hagwon? sounds rare to me.

Involving some illegal work, may be easy to get.
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