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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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 Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:59 am Post subject: |
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"They lock the dorms at 12 o'clock"
I'm with 'Bama Couple' on this.
What happens if I come knocking at 2am.
Let me in the GD door.
"I'm a grown ass man" - Cedric the Ent.
On the other hand, K experience says that dumb ass college kids teaching in K do some stupid ash spit. They are not 'grown ass men'. Ya dig.
But, were it me....I'd be knocking at 2 am.
My advice - do what you want to do and don't ASK PERMISSION. Shrug your shoulders when scolded by a very much 'high school' mentality society. Yes, I will ruffle some feathers here. |
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Morticae
Joined: 06 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Birmingham.couple wrote: |
 Mighty teacher complex. Sounds like you are being consumed by quite the opposite complex. Pragmatism is one thing but you sound like you're happy to work towards nothing.
Any students can be motivated and can learn well despite the fact that they aren't graded, as long as the teacher is competant, is dedicated and passionate and hasn't given up on his job/life. You are the antithesis of what a good teacher should stand for.
The problem with this place and some of the teachers here is that so many have your mentality and think that, just because it's a little difficult and you have to have some pride in your work, it's not worth ruffling a few feathers. Grow up man, how do you even look yourself in the mirror every morning? |
 Eh... whatever. This is the internet.
Everybody's experience in Korea is different. I am happy here, and I am able to keep the majority of my students happy and motivated as well. I hope that you can do the same.
A common problem is that people here want to 'prove' they are a real teacher, so they go the boring lectures/worksheet route. Just keep it fun and interesting, you don't see them the students often enough to teach them a whole lot. I see over 1,000+ kids, at the most, once a week in regular classes. Play games instead of worksheets.
But, in the end, you are at the mercy of your school whether you want it to be like that or not. Sure, you can fight on some issues and potentially sour the relationship, but just like in the West you can/will be fired for insubordination if you become too big of a problem. You are not licensed to teach in Korea, and are therefore not a legitimate teacher. You are expected to fall back and listen to the advice or your licensed co-teachers.
My original comment can be summed up that it's simply not worth complaining over a busy schedule and a curfew for a week or your life. The government is spending A LOT of money on the orientation, and for you to be there. This is for a job, not a vacation. I'm not saying don't enjoy your time, you'd be foolish not to. A lot of immature people go after this job just wanting a fun time, and their actions reflect badly on the rest of the natives here.
I'm done commenting on this thread. I'm sure you know it all already, right? |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: |
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RE: locked doors....
Get a hotel room -- privacy, and no need to "stay out all night."
Oh, wait -- you wanted to stay overnight in a place that someone else is paying for? I guess you could play by their rules....
Take care of yourself, or be taken care of -- they each have their pros and cons. |
I actually asked for to book a hotel, they said no
So, what happens to your sarcastic argument now? Nothing, it's quashed.
I await another terribly flawed retort. |
Sorry? THEY said no? I said YOU get a hotel room -- you pay for it, since you want to do what you want to do. I don't see a "no" to be said there. If you are asking them to get a hotel room for you and pay for it for you, then yeah, there is a "no" in that. You can have it one way, or another way, but not both ways.... |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Birmingham.couple wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
RE: locked doors....
Get a hotel room -- privacy, and no need to "stay out all night."
Oh, wait -- you wanted to stay overnight in a place that someone else is paying for? I guess you could play by their rules....
Take care of yourself, or be taken care of -- they each have their pros and cons. |
I actually asked for to book a hotel, they said no
So, what happens to your sarcastic argument now? Nothing, it's quashed.
I await another terribly flawed retort. |
If you have a problem with the EPIK accomadations, why not tell EPIK? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Birmingham.couple wrote: |
| I'm not a yes man that will blindly follow the baffling directions of my employers, I'm a teacher, my job is to teach and anything that will assist me in doing so I will attend and partake in. Watching a movie at 8pm no, no, I don't want to do that. |
Have fun in Korea. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Birmingham.couple wrote: |
| I'm not a yes man that will blindly follow the baffling directions of my employers, I'm a teacher, my job is to teach and anything that will assist me in doing so I will attend and partake in. Watching a movie at 8pm no, no, I don't want to do that. |
Have fun in Korea. |
Yes. I predict some interesting posts in the following year. Good luck OP. It's a learning curve here. You learn to adapt (be flexible - the Korean way) - or you end up being pretty miserable.
Good luck. |
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passport220
Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Birmingham.couple wrote: |
I resent the "suck up and do your job" crap you are spouting, it's not my job friend.
Watching a Korean movie that I have no interest in and does not relate to my work in any way is not part of my job.
I'd more than happily use that time to plan my lessons for the following week, that'd be part of my job.
I'm not a yes man that will blindly follow the baffling directions of my employers, I'm a teacher, my job is to teach and anything that will assist me in doing so I will attend and partake in. Watching a movie at 8pm no, no, I don't want to do that. |
You gave your word that you agree to certain terms and conditions of a contract (including orientation), signed on the dotted line and then you promptly start complaining that you will have to do what you agreed to?
If you are going to start beating your chest proclaiming that you are a �man�, you should have some idea what that means outside of the having some bits of physical anatomy. For the sake of the reputation of other foreign teachers, if you don't know what it means to be a professional, think of a professional person that you know and try to imitate their behavior. |
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swashbuckler
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| do they still have the shared showers like back in the mid-2000s? |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| They are responsible for you. there is a liability issue. |
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