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Wikileaks - Revolution or Terrorism?
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Wikileaks - Revolutionary revelation, or anarchistic provocation?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why they're so upset-- honestly, who wants to read millions of cables anyway?? It sounds super-boring.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A long list of key facilities around the world that the US describes as vital to its national security has been released by Wikileaks.


Recent reveal.

This changes things a little. What motives could there be in this? I can see the danger it causes, but not really the benefit...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11923766
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RMNC



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asking the government to have complete transparency? My god, we ask too much. Think about all the people we're hypothetically killing!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a concept I agree with Wikileaks but I think that, for the most part, these cables are pretty useless and kinda pathetic. Granted there is definitly some information in them that people should know but I feel a large mass of it is nothing but political tabloid. Like reading about celebrity relationships.

These latest leaks, a list of all areas, buildings, busineses etc. that could cause major disruptions if anything happened to them, well I think that is taking it a bit far. I'm not an American and I definitely don't have any irrational fears of terrorism but I'm sure there is certain information the American people (and the rest of the world for that matter) would prefer not to have published.

I guess that's kinda a double standard. But Assange and co. should be able to recognise when they're providing a useful vaulable service - which they do - and when they're just showing off. If not, well then I don't want them obtaining this information.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not everything is new news, too. A lot has already been reported by news, but the wikileaks tends to give a greater scope of the situations previously analysed. So for this I'm totally for.

But as you say (the person above), the latest was a bit too far, given that there doesn't seem to be any objective in releasing the information other than letting terrorists know of them =/
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we be sure everything being leaked is the truth?

Maybe some of it is disinformation.

All the government has to do is release a bunch of Top Secret Baloney and wikileaks looses a lot of credibility. It goes from being "The Truth" to being another Drudge Report.
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Koveras



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Can we be sure everything being leaked is the truth?

Maybe some of it is disinformation.

All the government has to do is release a bunch of Top Secret Baloney and wikileaks looses a lot of credibility. It goes from being "The Truth" to being another Drudge Report.


According to the co-founder (now estranged) of Wikileaks, they typically don't know who their sources are, so in the off-chance that Assange isn't an outright spook (which is seeming more and more likely), we still can't be sure of his information.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a more recent incarnation which cannot be doubted, however.

One that is even more... Galactical. http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-best-of-wookieleaks
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARGH.

The man got caught and arrested in the UK. Idiot! It was getting damned interesting.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-11937110
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Isehtis



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he'd stayed on the run, he would eventually be labelled by general society as the bad-guy, by turning himself in at the police station before he could be arrested he's taking the moral highground.

Don't forget that this guy has said that he'll open up his insurance policy if he's killed/locked up under false charges. One would assume that the US government would want to avoid that.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11957367

Well He may be under arrest but if anything, things are getting even more interesting. This community of hacktivists are getting some serious attention. I was amazed to click on the visa and mastercard websites to find they were actually broken. Fascinating.
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