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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Bohol: Ever been to Israel, mate?
Can you think of a single reason(give it a shot)why Israelis have become surly towards foreigners in the last 62 years? |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Because they're God's Chosen People? Considering without 'foreigners', they wouldn't be in control of the land they are now.
Chicken and egg aruments, man. Chicken and egg.
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Bohol: Ever been to Israel, mate?
Can you think of a single reason(give it a shot)why Israelis have become surly towards foreigners in the last 62 years? |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Is it just me or is Jeju Island totally overrated?
Now let me defend myself first. I have been there twice for a total of 6 days. Both times we drove most of the island and saw many sights, both touristy and natural. I don' know it haf as well as someone like Louis, but I have seen a fair bit.
The nature is quite nice and it'd be a place I'd consider living if I were single. But as a tourist spot, I'll take a pass.
It is setup for Korean tastes. Not thatI blame them, as that's a majority of their tourists. But I hate traveling like Koreans.
There is a real lack of public transportation to get around the island. You have to drive. To me, that's a fail.
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The public transport there is bad news!
And yes, it is totally overrated. Comparing it to Hawaii is a bit ridiculous! |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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Is it just me or is Jeju Island totally overrated?
Now let me defend myself first. I have been there twice for a total of 6 days. Both times we drove most of the island and saw many sights, both touristy and natural. I don' know it haf as well as someone like Louis, but I have seen a fair bit.
The nature is quite nice and it'd be a place I'd consider living if I were single. But as a tourist spot, I'll take a pass.
It is setup for Korean tastes. Not thatI blame them, as that's a majority of their tourists. But I hate traveling like Koreans.
There is a real lack of public transportation to get around the island. You have to drive. To me, that's a fail.
Just like all god beaches in Korea, they're hrribly overcrowded in the short swimming season they allow.
The food was lackluster, so were most of the sights. Sure the teddy bear museum is eat and kinda cute but not something I seek out when traveling. |
The bolded words: I suppose you want Koreans to make their country like America then?
The underlined words: it is a good thing you are not the only tourist in the world.
The italicized words: Rent a car, are you cheap?
There always ome people who are never content or grateful, they have to complain about everything in this country. I have been to Jeju-do, met wonderful people, had a great time, drove a car went to as many places as i could and did not think ill of the place.
It is a very good tourist destination it is just some people will never be happy because it isn't to their spoiled western tastes. Since Jeju-do belongs to Korea, they get to set it up as they see fit regardless of the western attitudes. i wish I could go back. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: Top 10 |
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| I'd add Danyang, Jikjisa, & Ulleungdo. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, am I not allowed to have an opinion now?
Yes it is Korean style. Read my next sentence. I don't want American style, as I am not American. I would rather it be more internatiional style. A style that attracts a wider variety of people.
I did rent a car both times. I hate driving in Korea. I am not cheap.
I guess since I don't love their 'Hawaii of Korea' that makes me ungrateful? What a leap of logic. That's the only exercise you get, likely.
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
Is it just me or is Jeju Island totally overrated?
Now let me defend myself first. I have been there twice for a total of 6 days. Both times we drove most of the island and saw many sights, both touristy and natural. I don' know it haf as well as someone like Louis, but I have seen a fair bit.
The nature is quite nice and it'd be a place I'd consider living if I were single. But as a tourist spot, I'll take a pass.
It is setup for Korean tastes. Not thatI blame them, as that's a majority of their tourists. But I hate traveling like Koreans.
There is a real lack of public transportation to get around the island. You have to drive. To me, that's a fail.
Just like all god beaches in Korea, they're hrribly overcrowded in the short swimming season they allow.
The food was lackluster, so were most of the sights. Sure the teddy bear museum is eat and kinda cute but not something I seek out when traveling. |
The bolded words: I suppose you want Koreans to make their country like America then?
The underlined words: it is a good thing you are not the only tourist in the world.
The italicized words: Rent a car, are you cheap?
There always ome people who are never content or grateful, they have to complain about everything in this country. I have been to Jeju-do, met wonderful people, had a great time, drove a car went to as many places as i could and did not think ill of the place.
It is a very good tourist destination it is just some people will never be happy because it isn't to their spoiled western tastes. Since Jeju-do belongs to Korea, they get to set it up as they see fit regardless of the western attitudes. i wish I could go back. |
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superNET
Joined: 08 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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am I not allowed to have an opinion now?
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Sure you can but don't forget that there are millions of people who like Jeju-do the way it is an they are not all Korean.
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Yes it is Korean style. Read my next sentence. I don't want American style, as I am not American. I would rather it be more internatiional style. A style that attracts a wider variety of people.
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Then it wouldn't be Korean now would it? And those people who come here to see Korea and the Korean things would greatly be disappointed
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| I did rent a car both times. I hate driving in Korea. I am not cheap. |
Well then I guess there is no pleasing you is there.
Why are you here if you hate Korea so much? (Jeju-do is too Korean; driving in Korea is too Korean, what next, you want them to change their food to be more 'international'?)
Re-read your comments, because everything you say you do not like will offend someone and makes you sound like you need the Korean people to do everything your way forgetting the fact that others happen to like it the way it is.
for example: "You have to drive. To me, that's a fail." Do you really know how long it would take to get to some places if you used a public bus? You would be complaining about that as well.
I was in Jeju and to tell you the truth it was great to drive around there for you have freedom and not held to a bus schedule. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Okay Adolf, I guess I am allowed to have an opinion, as long as its the same as yours.
If you look at the overrated/underrated thread, many people wrote Jeju Island as overrated. I never said it suked, I just said it wasn't all it's cracked up to be.
As far as bus vs car, why not have a choice? The island could easily support more publc buses.
I don't hate it here. When did I say that?
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am I not allowed to have an opinion now?
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Sure you can but don't forget that there are millions of people who like Jeju-do the way it is an they are not all Korean.
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Yes it is Korean style. Read my next sentence. I don't want American style, as I am not American. I would rather it be more internatiional style. A style that attracts a wider variety of people.
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Then it wouldn't be Korean now would it? And those people who come here to see Korea and the Korean things would greatly be disappointed
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| I did rent a car both times. I hate driving in Korea. I am not cheap. |
Well then I guess there is no pleasing you is there.
Why are you here if you hate Korea so much? (Jeju-do is too Korean; driving in Korea is too Korean, what next, you want them to change their food to be more 'international'?)
Re-read your comments, because everything you say you do not like will offend someone and makes you sound like you need the Korean people to do everything your way forgetting the fact that others happen to like it the way it is.
for example: "You have to drive. To me, that's a fail." Do you really know how long it would take to get to some places if you used a public bus? You would be complaining about that as well.
I was in Jeju and to tell you the truth it was great to drive around there for you have freedom and not held to a bus schedule. |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Oedo Island looks pretty.
DMZ is a must - before they nuke it.
Itaewan is great if you need more Western. I wish they had an Itaewan in China...needed it after 3 months of mandarin  |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Sure, I love Itaewon as much as the next person, but definitely not one of the Top 10 places to visit! Most people looking to tour around want the authentic Korea experience.
And someone mentioned Danyang? It was in the running for my list. |
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offtheoche
Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:33 am Post subject: |
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I put Incheon International Airport at the the top of the list.
Seriously, it's a great airport. |
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tottenhamtaipeinick
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
Okay Adolf, I guess I am allowed to have an opinion, as long as its the same as yours.
If you look at the overrated/underrated thread, many people wrote Jeju Island as overrated. I never said it suked, I just said it wasn't all it's cracked up to be.
As far as bus vs car, why not have a choice? The island could easily support more publc buses.
I don't hate it here. When did I say that?
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am I not allowed to have an opinion now?
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Sure you can but don't forget that there are millions of people who like Jeju-do the way it is an they are not all Korean.
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Yes it is Korean style. Read my next sentence. I don't want American style, as I am not American. I would rather it be more internatiional style. A style that attracts a wider variety of people.
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Then it wouldn't be Korean now would it? And those people who come here to see Korea and the Korean things would greatly be disappointed
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| I did rent a car both times. I hate driving in Korea. I am not cheap. |
Well then I guess there is no pleasing you is there.
Why are you here if you hate Korea so much? (Jeju-do is too Korean; driving in Korea is too Korean, what next, you want them to change their food to be more 'international'?)
Re-read your comments, because everything you say you do not like will offend someone and makes you sound like you need the Korean people to do everything your way forgetting the fact that others happen to like it the way it is.
for example: "You have to drive. To me, that's a fail." Do you really know how long it would take to get to some places if you used a public bus? You would be complaining about that as well.
I was in Jeju and to tell you the truth it was great to drive around there for you have freedom and not held to a bus schedule. |
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I haven�t been to Korea as yet but of all the beaches/islands I have ever been to and the fact I work at Gold Coast in Australia and drive to Byron Bay regularly, could never imagine going to a beach paradise or island where you rely on public transport. A car in more remote areas means freedom to me and you can suck up the scenery and stop at the places you most like freely.
So in your opinion the whole of Australia is a fail for tourists as we have one of the lowest densities in the world so obviously have beyond pathetic public transport. Australia = fail! good one!
I will be in Korea in 2 weeks and I am looking forward to experiencing island life the Korean way when I have time to fly to jeju. I think international beaches and islands suck as they have NO culture. Have you been to Samoa or Tonga? I hope they don't take up your advice to become a so called international island (Bali is quickly changing  !) You go their to experience their culture and not your own! |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| travel zen wrote: |
| Oedo Island looks pretty. |
Count that as part of Geoje Island as it's only a few minutes by ferry from three ports, and Oedo is so small that you finish the island in half an hour. It;s nice if you were visiting Geoje already (Haegeumgang tour, prison camp museum, the good beaches, the scenic eastern coastal road and great seafood) but to go all the way down there just to have Oedo as a destination would be a big disappointment, though Koreans do it en masse.
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| Jeonju--->Walk through traditional Korea and nearby Maisan Provincial Park |
If you make it to Jeonju and want to go to a great park, head 45 minutes to the west coast to the Byeonsan-bando national park: hiking, inland riverside trails, camping sites, coastal walks, cliffs and beaches including this one:
http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/b/8/d/7/highres_17147319.jpeg
From June through September you can have Thailand. At that time of year I love travelling weekends to Korean beaches all over the peninsula. Of course, living on Jeju now really puts a crimp in the ol' throw some things in the jeep and just go Saturday morning departures. I still do it, exploring this island. But I miss having the peninsula as my roaming ground.
I cannot emphasis enough that one of the biggest secrets in Korea is the Sinan peninsula north of Mokpo. For camping at the beach, for a scenic country drive, for summer walks in nature and along extensive boardwalks of beauty, it is first rate, a place I must return to again and again. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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I can not comment on Australia, as I have never been there. I would not want to drive, as I do not trust myself to drive on the left. Too awkward.
Why are you drudging up an old thread? SuperNET was a troll, working for some K newspaper or maybe a gyopo. He had an agenda. Taking his side will make you look foolish.
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
Okay Adolf, I guess I am allowed to have an opinion, as long as its the same as yours.
If you look at the overrated/underrated thread, many people wrote Jeju Island as overrated. I never said it suked, I just said it wasn't all it's cracked up to be.
As far as bus vs car, why not have a choice? The island could easily support more publc buses.
I don't hate it here. When did I say that?
| superNET wrote: |
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am I not allowed to have an opinion now?
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Sure you can but don't forget that there are millions of people who like Jeju-do the way it is an they are not all Korean.
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Yes it is Korean style. Read my next sentence. I don't want American style, as I am not American. I would rather it be more internatiional style. A style that attracts a wider variety of people.
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Then it wouldn't be Korean now would it? And those people who come here to see Korea and the Korean things would greatly be disappointed
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| I did rent a car both times. I hate driving in Korea. I am not cheap. |
Well then I guess there is no pleasing you is there.
Why are you here if you hate Korea so much? (Jeju-do is too Korean; driving in Korea is too Korean, what next, you want them to change their food to be more 'international'?)
Re-read your comments, because everything you say you do not like will offend someone and makes you sound like you need the Korean people to do everything your way forgetting the fact that others happen to like it the way it is.
for example: "You have to drive. To me, that's a fail." Do you really know how long it would take to get to some places if you used a public bus? You would be complaining about that as well.
I was in Jeju and to tell you the truth it was great to drive around there for you have freedom and not held to a bus schedule. |
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I haven�t been to Korea as yet but of all the beaches/islands I have ever been to and the fact I work at Gold Coast in Australia and drive to Byron Bay regularly, could never imagine going to a beach paradise or island where you rely on public transport. A car in more remote areas means freedom to me and you can suck up the scenery and stop at the places you most like freely.
So in your opinion the whole of Australia is a fail for tourists as we have one of the lowest densities in the world so obviously have beyond pathetic public transport. Australia = fail! good one!
I will be in Korea in 2 weeks and I am looking forward to experiencing island life the Korean way when I have time to fly to jeju. I think international beaches and islands suck as they have NO culture. Have you been to Samoa or Tonga? I hope they don't take up your advice to become a so called international island (Bali is quickly changing !) You go their to experience their culture and not your own! |
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AtmaWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
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| Bumping this thread, as I'm moving back to Korea and am looking for more advice on trips. Didn't do too much the first time around. |
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