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Valdi
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 Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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Stable relationships aren't the same as legally binding unions. Are you saying that even people in a legally-bound relationship don't count as "married" with regards to these statistics? If so, I'm interested in hearing about it, but I'd really like a source so I can read more.
Well, couple who have lived together for 2 years (IIRC) or have a child together are treated the same in a legal sense (in terms of inheritance etc.) as if they were married but the marriage statistics only show those who are married.
It is quite common in Iceland to have children, build or buy a house etc. before getting married.
A good source for figures and such is www.statice.is
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| This is not true at all, child support is pitifully small and not nearly enough to pay more that a small part of the costs of raising a child. |
Given my quoted text was about the reliability and enforceability of child support rather than it's perceived subjective size, I'm not sure how to take this. Saying, "That's not true at all," and then going on to talk about something only marginally related to the point made doesn't make much sense. Perhaps you'd like to revisit your point in hopes of making it a bit more salient?[/quote]
What I was adressing there was your suggestion that the existence of child support was an influence on women having children and my point was that child support was so pitifully small that it could not be considered a part in the decision making.
Apart from the fact that most of the children being born out of wedlock was still being born into a stable family situation.
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Valdi wrote: |
Well, couple who have lived together for 2 years (IIRC) or have a child together are treated the same in a legal sense (in terms of inheritance etc.) as if they were married but the marriage statistics only show those who are married.
It is quite common in Iceland to have children, build or buy a house etc. before getting married.
A good source for figures and such is www.statice.is |
Thanks interesting, thanks. I'll glance over the link later. I'm sure this also has a meaningful impact on such trends.
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| What I was adressing there was your suggestion that the existence of child support was an influence on women having children and my point was that child support was so pitifully small that it could not be considered a part in the decision making. |
As I said, talk about average funds received being "pitifully small" seems quite subjective to me. What's a bit less subjective is the correlation between increasing child-support benefits (both in terms of funds received and the reliability of their receipt), and out-of-wedlock marriages. Given the combination of my own observations of how child support arrangements can encourage certain behaviors and statistical data which implies said observations are accurate in a general sense due to correlations between those laws being passed and rates of out-of-wedlock birth going up in every country they are passed in, I have a hard time simply shrugging off these policies as a non-factor. The most I think one might say is that they are not the only factor, and I agree, they are not. |
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