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Irish Government Implodes
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chellovek wrote:
candyteacher wrote:
chellovek wrote:
"What are the two smallest books in the world? A: The book of Irish knowledge and the book of Italian bravery." The jibe is that the Irish are "the niggers of Europe."

The Celtic Tiger thing was just PR. Based on the popular jokes Irish people are n-worders with no education. No such country has ever got on well.


[indignant rant snipped]


No, I was just talking smack. I have close Irish family, I was trying to cast doubt on national stereotypes of any stripe, since I know Irish people like to cast themselves as having 'kissed the blarney stone.' Yanks like to cast themselves as heroes despite f-ing up whenever they're abroad, and Brits likes to pretend to be civlised whilst their people act like barbarians. The rest of the seven nations act as poorly.


I thought it was funny. I lol'd.
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rollo



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Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there is no doubt in most minds that the Irish are going to default on at least of this debt. Mise is correct a new currency to escape the Euro trap. One Irish politician on hearing that the British exchequer had promised the full support of the British government said "what little hope i had just left."
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blade



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully, the dissolution of the Dail will happen in the next couple of days.

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Cowen resigns as FF leader, but to remain as Taoiseach
Brian Cowen has stepped down as leader of Fianna F�il just five days after he won a vote of confidence from his parliamentary party. He will remain as Taoiseach.
He announced the decision at a Dublin hotel this afternoon following a week of unprecedented political turmoil in the wake of his botched attempt to reshuffle the Cabinet.

Mr Cowen said he had taken the decision after it became clear that internal criticism of his leadership was deflecting the party from uniting to contest the election on March 11th.

Mr Cowen said he had not been in contact with any senior members of his party prior to making his decision. He said he had taken the decision to resolve an "internal party matter" and that it would not impact on his role as Taoiseach.

Mr Cowen said the election should be fought on policies not a leadership issue. �I�m concerned that renewed internal criticism of Fianna F�il is deflecting attention from this important debate,� Mr Cowen said.

�Therefore, taking everything into account after discussing the matter with my family I have taken, on my own counsel, the decision to step down.�

Mr Cowen said he spoke to Green Party leader John Gormley before making today's announcement. He said his resignation will not affect Government business. �My political assessment is that this is the right thing to do for the party,� he said. �But it�s about me directing my attention to the country.�

Mr Cowen said he expected the Government would win a confidence vote in the D�il next Wednesday evening put down by the Labour Party.

"The Government will continue to govern the country," he told reporters. Mr Cowen said the process to elect a new leader would be finalised over the next week.

His decision comes after renewed criticism of his leadership from many backbenchers following his attempted reshuffle on Thursday after five ministers stepped down earlier in the week. This move was blocked by the Green Party.

Asked why he attempted to reshuffle the Cabinet, Mr Cowen said: �I believe that it was my duty to put in place the best possible team we could to fight this election to put them on the frontbench and into position,� the Taoiseach said.

�It was not a cynical view by me. It was a political act.�

Later, Cork East TD Ned O�Keeffe come out and backed former minister for foreign affairs Miche�l Martin to take over the leadership of the party.

Mr O�Keeffe said Mr Martin �handled himself impeccably� during the no confidence vote and has come out of it with �great credibility�.

He said: �He stood by his principles and he has emerged with his reputation enhanced.�

Mr O�Keeffe also paid tribute to Mr Cowen for the �dignified� way he stood down as leader today and feels Mr Cowen was �ill-advised over the last few weeks in deciding to carry on�.
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visitorq



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this about sums it up.
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blade



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finna Fail's coalition partner has finally agreed to pull the plug. Unfortunately, they're still going to force through the controversial finance bill before the government is dissolved.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0123/breaking18.html
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blade



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irish mainstream political parties have such utter contempt for the democratic process in Ireland.
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Gilmore reiterated his earlier statement that Labour would withdraw its planned motion of no confidence in the government providing that the Finance Bill was fast-tracked in order to facilitate an early election.

http://www.thejournal.ie/labour-demands-that-finance-bill-be-enacted-this-week-2011-01/


And from an email I received today from Michael D Higgins Labour party TD and Spokesperson on Foreign Affairs.


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Dear Blade

Good to hear from you again.

Juts to confirm: we will be voting against the Finance Bill, just as we voted against the Budget in December.

Best wishes

Michael D



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mises



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gilmore reiterated his earlier statement that Labour would withdraw its planned motion of no confidence in the government providing that the Finance Bill was fast-tracked in order to facilitate an early election.


Maybe Labour should change their name to International Capital.
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