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After School Jobs: How Do They Work?
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materialize



Joined: 03 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking for KASE position in Seoul that would begin a bit later than March (between May-August) but since it's a public school position, I'm guessing March would probably be my last shot for a while? :/
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long do they usually run? As long as you want?

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kingssurfer



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long does what run?
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thejasman1



Joined: 13 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't seem to find edubest or Kase website or contact info anywhere...any help guys? [email protected]
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the contact e-mails of four after school programs (there are many more).

KASE Korea After School Education e-mail: [email protected]

ACS KOREA Recruitment Agency e-mail: [email protected]

Daekyo Co. e-mail: [email protected]

Woongjin Think Outside Recruiting
http://www.thinkoutsiderecruiting.com/after-school-program.php

IMPORTANT: One thing nobody has mentioned thus far is that the majority of after school jobs are only available to F series visa holders. The reason is that the hiring companies cannot sponsor an E2 visa - only a school or educational institute can do that. Occasionally a school will sponsor a visa for an after school teacher but it's the exception, not the norm.

I currently work at an after school program in Gyeonggi.
Work Hours: (max 5 x 45 minute classes)
11:00-12:00 prep time
12:00-1:00 lunch break
1:00-5:15 teaching (most days I have only 3 or 4 classes so there's plenty of down time)

Pay:
Base salary - 2,400,000
Housing allowance - W400,000
Pension and Medical insurance allowance - W200,000
TOTAL: W3,000,000

Severance = yes Housing provided = no Flight = no
Vacation: 5 days in summer, 5 days in winter
Contract period: 1 year

- Class sizes are a max of 15 but in reality I've never had more than 13.
- Students are level tested when they register so they're all roughly at the same level of ability.
- As mentioned, you and your co-worker choose the books each term. You may be given a selection to choose from or given free reign - depends on which company you work for.
- The Korean teacher will not be in the classroom with you. She will be conducting her own classes in her own room at the same time as you have your classes.
- Paperwork is minimal. You will have to make tests and write report cards at the end of each term. Most of the other bureaucratic stuff will be handled by your co-worker.

I've worked at public schools and hagwons and this is far and away my best gig. After school jobs aren't perfect (what job is?) and I still find plenty to gripe about, but I have autonomy, little bureaucratic overhead, almost no supervision/micromanagment from bosses, and for the most part relatively eager students (they're still young and not yet burnt out from years of public schooling).

There is touch competition for these positions though so bear that in mind when deciding what jobs you want to apply for. Best of luck.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riker wrote:
I am going to get a contract tomorrow for an after school program in Busan. No airfare indeed. Looks like I will have to sell my car... but the job looks to good to pass up.


If you can get one, all indications look like you should take it.



So you can get hired by these programs from overseas? That's good to know.
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kingssurfer



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to reply to curlygirls post. I have very similar info.

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IMPORTANT: One thing nobody has mentioned thus far is that the majority of after school jobs are only available to F series visa holders. The reason is that the hiring companies cannot sponsor an E2 visa - only a school or educational institute can do that. Occasionally a school will sponsor a visa for an after school teacher but it's the exception, not the norm.


I currently work for kase and have an E2. As a matter of fact, most of the company�s foreign employees are on E2 visas. I also know people working for HanMi on E2's as well. If you work for Kase, you will have a contract for Kase and a contract for the public school you work in.

Curlygirl, I am glad you made this post because I would like to start a thread that compares afterschool programs. There seems to be very little info on them.

Here is info on Kase
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=203541&highlight=

Briefly

It varies on the school, but fluctuates between 12-5:15 and 12-5:45

Working Hours

MTF
12-5:45

W TH
12-4:30


Teaching hours

MTF
1-5:45

W
2:05-4:30

TH
1-4:30

Great hours for full time pay.

As far as I know, they offer the most benefits.

Base Salary: 2.0-2.4
Housing allowance: W500,000 5million won key money
Medical: 50/50

Severance: yes

Flight: no

vacation: 5 days in summer 5 days in winters
(renewed and got an extra 5 days unpaid)

contract period: 1 year

class size: 7-12 students ( classes can not exceed 12 student's)
Level/placement test for new student's

After each 3 month term, you and your Korean co worker choose the curriculum, you also co write report cards.


You have your own class, and your Korean co teacher has their own class.

If you have over 100 students the company will hire a part time assistant.
In my case, we had an increase of 30 students up to 90, and the co hired a part time worker 3 hours a day.

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I've worked at public schools and hagwons and this is far and away my best gig. After school jobs aren't perfect (what job is?) and I still find plenty to gripe about, but I have autonomy, little bureaucratic overhead, almost no supervision/micromanagment from bosses, and for the most part relatively eager students (they're still young and not yet burnt out from years of public schooling).


but I have autonomy, little bureaucratic overhead, almost no supervision/micromanagment from bosses, and for the most part relatively eager students (they're still young and not yet burnt out from years of public schooling

Exactly ^-^

I have only seen my boss, about 4 times in a full year,and my recruiting managers about 7. One of those times was when they hired me, another was when I was at the co seminar, and the last and most recent was when I renewed my contract. You get the picture.

Like I said before, Uni is the only better English gig to have in Korea. I disagree that real kindergartens are slightly better. The full time pay for part time work, and barely ever seeing your boss are why.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for an after school program.

I teach less classes than I was at my last hagwon, and I work 4 hours less a day. You tell me which job I liked better.
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Modernist



Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny, I have a regular PS contract but my ES, instead of hiring one of these management companies to run their afterschool, pays me an extra 25% above my monthly salary to teach it instead. Probably a lot cheaper for them but I can't argue with the numbers on my end.

I can concur with the upsides though. Small classes with smarter [generally] students, no interference from administration, pick your own textbook [new ones in a month for me], no co-teaching. After only assisting for 4 AM classes, I have 3 40-minutes PM AS classes and I'm done for the day. Can't argue with it too much, but I wish I could lose my 1st graders and double my 4th graders Smile
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ryanbrezzi



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Afterschool programs are much better than hogwons. Oh my. I worked in hogwons for two years and they are often disorganized, rushed, and you have a quick turn around of students. Whereas in after school programs its relaxed, you have the students for the year, the pay is generally higher and benefits are better. For example they will pay key money, a portion of your monthly rent, 1/2 of your medical coverage and a bonus at the end of your contract.
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ryanbrezzi



Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So happy to be free of hogwons.
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kingssurfer



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
So happy to be free of hogwons


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