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New Rule Change for Male Gyopo Military Obligation?
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peterpan1110



Joined: 06 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmah1988 wrote:
peterpan1110 wrote:
I believe those born after May 4, 1988 are now forced into the military regardless if they are in the Korean family registry or not. I asked if I could renounce my Korean citizenship, but apparently the Korean government are no longer accepting applications for this procedure? Anybody hear about this?


Were your parents US citizens or permanent residents when you were born? I think that is what makes the difference for the point you made.

Also, what area of the United States are you from? It seems some Korean Consulates have different information, but perhaps the ones we are talking to have more updated information.


My parents were not citizens at the time of my birth, therefore, I must go to the army. According to the consulate people, in the past, as long as you weren't in the family registry, you were not required to fulfill military obligations. Since then, the rule has changed and now it does not matter whether you are in the family registry or not.

Fyi, I went to the Los Angeles Consulate and I also emailed the another consulate, I believe they are based in Washington DC
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nate1983



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, let's get this straight: you're not a Korean citizen, and you don't have a Korean passport, correct? (from everything you've said, I'm pretty sure this is the case)

I've had numbers of gyopo guy friends come on F4 visas and not have any issues with military service. I know they did change the law last year, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't pertain to you, ONLY to people with dual nationality. If for some reason, the Korean government insists you have Korean citizenship (which once the issue gets to a level of competent people, they shouldn't), you can always renounce it. Just make sure you do that before going to Korea.

I don't think that they make non-citizens do military service - that sounds very sketchy.

Basically, as a non-dual American citizen, you have the exact same rights as any other American when it comes to obtaining a Korean visa; if they give you crap about military service when you apply for the F4 (gyopo) visa, just apply for the E2 one like everybody else - your ethnicity doesn't need to even come up.
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peterpan1110



Joined: 06 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nate1983 wrote:
First of all, let's get this straight: you're not a Korean citizen, and you don't have a Korean passport, correct? (from everything you've said, I'm pretty sure this is the case)

I've had numbers of gyopo guy friends come on F4 visas and not have any issues with military service. I know they did change the law last year, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't pertain to you, ONLY to people with dual nationality. If for some reason, the Korean government insists you have Korean citizenship (which once the issue gets to a level of competent people, they shouldn't), you can always renounce it. Just make sure you do that before going to Korea.

I don't think that they make non-citizens do military service - that sounds very sketchy.

Basically, as a non-dual American citizen, you have the exact same rights as any other American when it comes to obtaining a Korean visa; if they give you crap about military service when you apply for the F4 (gyopo) visa, just apply for the E2 one like everybody else - your ethnicity doesn't need to even come up.


Thanks for the advice. I will definitely look into the e2. I do not have a Korean passport, but it appears I have citizenship because in Korea, citizenship appears to be based on parent citizenship. This is all too confusing...
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eddielee82



Joined: 16 May 2011

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what did you end up doing peterpan
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterpan1110 wrote:
[. I do not have a Korean passport, but it appears I have citizenship because in Korea, citizenship appears to be based on parent citizenship. This is all too confusing...


I'm fairly sure that is how it works in most countries...if you are born to two citizens of a country that you are a citizen as well.
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asiankidchou



Joined: 19 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow peterpan
i have the exact same issue as you
we should talk

i spent so much time calling up various agencies trying to figure out how to make this happen because ive wanted to be in korea so badly

if you're still using this site, send me a message.
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