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CarolinaTHeels



Joined: 07 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
CarolinaTHeels wrote:
i have a BA in business. I wanna teach at universities in Asia. Would it be better to get my MBA or get a masters in Education and teach english or get MBA and teach business?


It's about marketing yourself. I have worked as an accountant for 2 years and a management accountant for 3, therefore I am marketable to teach business courses. If you have a BA in Business with no experience, not sure how much it will count. However if you had 15 years experience working as an accountant and a BA in business, and I have an MBA... I am not sure who an University would pick.

But if you want to position yourself as the best candidate in any job, professional development and academic qualifications matter.


Yea i just gotta figure out the best course of action to take nxt yr. I want to teach in Unis in Asia and get tenure. So if that means getting a MBA or maybe even a phd then im for it.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The HUFs business jobs are the only ones I've ever seen offering 'full professor' status to non-Ph.D. holders. Even then, I'm not sure that that would necessarily include tenure, just that title.

If you really want to make a go of it in academia long term, especially if you're interested in tenure, the Ph.D. is the way to go.

In a way, I wish I had done a Ph.D. in business, (International )Organizational Behaviour to be more specific; interesting stuff to study and teach, and that degree would have been 'easier' than the one I ended up getting, not to mention pretty damn marketable.

For the most part, the MBA is not a terminal degree and won't get you tenure, or even a long-term position at a decent business school. You also won't be trained to do research and publish, which are necessary to get tenure in the first place.
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PR, I think you have found a reason to pile yourself higher and deeper once again!
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's what I do. But, hey, they asked, I answered. If you don't want the news, don't order the paper.
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CarolinaTHeels



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PR,

I would like to try and do a Phd program in International Business after teaching in Korea for a few years. What are some of the things I could do to position myself to get admitted or become a better candidate a program?
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have an undergrad in business or economics? That would be a good start. If not, you'll have a bit of ground to catch up on just in order to knock out an MBA. A lot of people transition to an MBA from non-related undergrad majors (e.g. statistics, biology, chemistry, engineering, etc...), though, so that's not insurmountable.

You'll need to take your GMAT if you want to study in the U.S., even if you get your MBA elsewhere. I'd say study up on the exam; don't take it cold.

It's also helpful to decide before entering an MBA program if you do indeed want to do your Ph.D. (or DBA). The reason I say this is that a lot of schools will let you apply for the doctoral program from the get-go, with the understanding that you'll be doing your MBA in conjunction with your doctorate.

This is helpful for two reasons: 1) it saves you the hastle of having to apply separately for admission to a doctoral program, and 2) it puts in you in line for funding faster.

Next, try to decide on what specialization you want as early as possible (e.g. finance, marketing, organizational behaviour, accounting...). That way, you can get going on your research incrementally, at least the theory and background, as you knock out your MBA. Most people drop out of Ph.D. programs because of lit review, dissertation proposal, data hastle, and actually having to write a couple hundred pages or so.

While more than a semester of stats isn't required in most MBA programs, it's a good idea to take a minimum of 2 years of stats classes on your way to getting a Ph.D. in business or economics. Knock them out as you go along.

Also, have a budget in mind. A lot of business programs don't fund MBAs, and funding for Ph.D./DBA programs can be hit and miss. If you're applying directly into a joint Master's/Ph.D. program, definitely ask what the funding situation is like when you contact schools.

You say that you want to work in Korea for a few years before you get back into school. Do that if you have to, but if possible, my suggestion is always to get the degree underway (and out of the way) as soon as possible.

Choosing a university: If you can get in and can afford it, the bigger the name, the better. However, don't discount big names in state school systems (UNC, USC, SUNY, UC). You get a decent network through any of these and they can be considerably less expensive.

That's off the top of my head. One important last point to remember is that the Ph.D. is just the beginning, and that shocks the hell out of a lot of people who envision the degree being a golden ticket. Remember that after you finish, everyone where you work, if you find work right off, will more than likely have the same degree level.

Cheers, P.R.
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