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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinook wrote:
while i'm not stateless, I can relate to the "but where are you from in Canada?"

I grew up outside of toronto in a small town i very much disliked.

So did I from the ages of 5-18. It was called Bowmanville. I generally call Peterborough my hometown because the majority of the friends that I expect to be part of my future life live there. I've lived in Saskatoon, Montreal, Vancouver and Ottawa as an adult and was born in Saskatoon so I never know how to answer the question "where are you from?" I certainly don't say Bowmanville. I've also lived in Spain for a few months and Korea for 3 years and spent quite a bit of time on the road also. Home? I don't know. I'll still say Peterborough.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
chinook wrote:
in scotland i had to fill out a crazily involved form for our letting agents to get our flat. They wanted 10 years of addresses to the month.


What a nightmare.. I큟 thinking right now.. and the last 10 years of where I lived.. I highly doubt they would have accepted me for that flat!!

1994:
1 month Portland Oregon
6 months Minnesapolis, MN
5 months a different Minneapolis flat

1995:
6 months Minneaplis
3 months Portland Oregon
3 months different flat in Portland Oregon

1996
6 months Portland Oregon
5 months Busan Korea
1 month Thailand, Singapore, Nepal

1997
1 month Nepal and Thailand
1 month Portland Oregon
1 month Michigan
5 months Busan Korea
1 month Budapest
1 month Turkey
1 month Chile and Argentina
1 month Brazil (Sao Paulo)

1998
2 months Sao Paulo, Brazil
2 months Rio de Jainero, Brazil
1 months Sao Paulo, Brazil
1 month Bolivia
1 month Peru
1 month Quito Ecuador
4 months Washington Heights, New York City

1999
2 months Washington Heights, New York City
3 months Brooklyn, New York City
7 months Tribeca, New York City

2000
8 months Tribeca, New York City
3 months Seoul, Korea
1 month Vietnam and Cambodia

2001
6 months Seoul Korea
1 month Indonesia?
1 month Michigan USA
1 month China
1 month Philippines
2 months San Rafael, California

2002
1 month San Rafael, California
3 months San Francisco, California
1 month Seoul, Korea
1 month JinJu, Korea
1 month Hanoi Vietnam & Kunming China
1 month San Francisco, California
1 month in another San Francisco apartment
1 month Michigan

2003
1 month Lousisana & Nevada & California
2 months San Diego, California
9 months Seoul, Korea

2004 (includes projected as of May 2004)
3 months Seoul Korea
3 month Castellon, Spain
1 month Spain & Ireland
2 months Innsbruck, Austria
3 months Castellon, Spain


thats sooo cool man....
keep it up you're having a great life..
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Given the amount of times he's been to South Korea, I'd say maybe a bad employer Laughing


Sounds like one of those people cleaning house on privates.

Or just loaded from the start...
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Squid



Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left England in 1984, and have been travelling since. Most times it's good, except when you get ripped off badly. Sometimes I feel a bit of heartache when I visit into a family gathering or such... where a big family gets together and talks closely, then I envy that situation a little.

Also living out of a suitcase becomes a drag and moving regularly also a headache.

But you learn to stand up for yourself and become quite resourceful, much more so than most of the students I teach.

It also breeds a lot of cynicism in a person, if I'm anything to go by. Nothing changes in the world wherever you go, whatever you're running from or running to.

Iggy Pop- Just a passenger cheers me up these kinds of days.

Squid the introspect
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm stateless, but I'm planning a coup to retake the country of my birth. Mugabe must die.
If anyone is up for it, i'll be leading a terrorist group of whiteys into Zimbabwe armed with Fn's and a few rocket launchers. The prize? The most beautiful country on earth, a backyard that reaches to the horizon, and a swimming pool.
"we will rise again and again, until the land is ours".
RISE O VOICES OF RHODESIA
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't do it... I'm only 22 and already feeling the strong urge to find a house and put down roots.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryleeys wrote:
I couldn't do it... I'm only 22 and already feeling the strong urge to find a house and put down roots.


Whats the matter? Scared?
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope... I'm considering staying in Korea a second year because I have a potentially good job offer in a non-school situation. BUT

I grew up in a stable environment... and that's what I want out of life. I want to find a girl, have a family, build a house, and enjoy the good life... I travelled all over the US as a kid and there are places I wouldn't mind seeing as an adult... But I need a Home (with a capital H).
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did the OP go?
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the late reply. Been out of the loop the last couple of days....so so busy.

Later today, when I finally have some free time I'll post answers to your questions Butterfly. I am sure they would be helpful to all those raising children in a foreign land.

We "Third-Culture Kids" are difinetly the wave of the future.
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually when asked the infernal question "What country are you from?", I answer "Africa". This usually shocks Koreans into not asking anymore questions about my nationality. note: I say "AfRika."

If I could pigeon-hole myself into one particular block it would have to be a generic "British-African."

Although I lived for almost four years in Indonesia before my family was deported, that was in a grass hut in the highlands of Irian Jaya and I was just a little baby and dont remember it all that well apart from the shrunken heads and former cannibal neighbours.

I have lived in 13 countries (Korea is lucky #13) and travelled to around 90 or so countries (I think, lost count after 70 or so and dont keep score).

A "stable evironment", what is that? This is the only life I have know. Travelling from country to country. Meeting new and interesting people.

Rapier.....we should meet up sometime. Have a Brai or something. Used to visit Zimbabwe\Rhodesia a lot when I lived in Botswana. Aways thought that when I finally check out, I would loved to be buried like Cecil Rhodes. On top of a hill overlooking the veldt, nothing but beautiful African country side for kilometres around.


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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back when I was in my early twenties I did what many of the poster here have done. Went on a trip to find myself and learn about a different way of life.

'Cept I went back to my home country. Tried to get a nice, "normal" job; settle down and conform to society.

But I hated it and didnt fit in in America. I was quite literally a stranger in a strange land.

So, I did a sort of "midnight run" back to this life and couldn't be happier.


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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:

What do you think of national pride as a concept? Do you think it is silly or is it something you envy in others?


Hard to comment on something you dont have. But I'll give it a shot.

Even though I am technically an American, I dont feel any particular love or pride in that fact. Partly this is due to my having grown up apart from America and partly due to witnessing some things in Africa, like America trying to overthrow democratic governments and supporting the old racist government of South Africa.

Now that I am older (and I like to think, wiser) I have love-hate relationship with America. Sure, America is a bullying, hypocritically country, but like the quip about democracy. "It is horrible, but far better than all the others." At the end of the day, America is a force for good in the world.

I personally think national pride is a good thing. But one must be careful that it doesnt become jingoism.
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Gosp



Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: 85% There.

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've all had many lifetimes on this planet; and most of us have lived past lives on different planets in numerous galaxies. Hell, I'm not even from this galaxy originally �� you know the Pleiades? ok go there. It's all so temporary. My passport says American but I live on Earth. On a different note, a lot of people call America the "melting pot" of the world. It's rare that you'll find anyone here [esp. in the South] who is of one solid genetic stock so to speak [i.e. full German descent or full Irish descent]. I myself am a mixture of Dutch, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, German, Italian, and Cherokee Indian ancestry. Is there any other place on Earth that spawns such muts as America?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosp wrote:
We've all had many lifetimes on this planet; and most of us have lived past lives on different planets in numerous galaxies. Hell, I'm not even from this galaxy originally �� you know the Pleiades? ok go there. It's all so temporary. My passport says American but I live on Earth. On a different note, a lot of people call America the "melting pot" of the world. It's rare that you'll find anyone here [esp. in the South] who is of one solid genetic stock so to speak [i.e. full German descent or full Irish descent]. I myself am a mixture of Dutch, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, German, Italian, and Cherokee Indian ancestry. Is there any other place on Earth that spawns such muts as America?


"The world according to Gosp", haha.....yeah, all americans claim to have glamorous Red indian warrior blood, the last of the mohicans, right?
W'ere all a mixture of everything.......just depends how far back you want to go.
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