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Sticks
Joined: 13 Mar 2011 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Good luck with that, you'll have rioting going on in the cafeteria demanding the return of fish sticks and chicken nuggets.
America's doomed. |
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Abe Scrap
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| It isn't supposed to be a brainer: mom vs. the government. It is hard to believe some people are actually struggling with this one. |
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soupsandwich
Joined: 20 May 2011
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ...possible sign of more things like this come? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Or the government could just give the kids a Korean cafeteria lunch. It's not the pinnacle of healthy eating- white rice, salt. But it would be light years ahead of brown bagged ham sandwiches/lunchables and fish sticks with tater tots. |
Spam doesn't count as ham? |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Abe Scrap wrote: |
| It isn't supposed to be a brainer: mom vs. the government. It is hard to believe some people are actually struggling with this one. |
So what are we supposed to believe then?
I don't think that banning packed lunches is the way forward, but more of a compromise is needed, for example schools should have the right to demand that parents actually send their sprogs to school with something nutritious.
I watched the Jamie Oliver series "American Food Revolution" and even I was shocked at the crap the pupils were being sent to school with. If you send your child to school with nothing to eat except fat and sugar, isn't that negligence? |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Abe Scrap wrote: |
| It isn't supposed to be a brainer: mom vs. the government. It is hard to believe some people are actually struggling with this one. |
I wouldn't doubt there are some people on here who'd like to abolish the family altogether... Just take all babies away at birth and have them raised by the state. If you gave Leon a magic wand to wave, he'd probably make it happen... |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| johnnyenglishteacher2 wrote: |
| I don't think that banning packed lunches is the way forward, but more of a compromise is needed, for example schools should have the right to demand that parents actually send their sprogs to school with something nutritious |
Have you ever been to an American high school? Many of them are literally serviced by the same companies that service prisons. I kid you not. The food is absolute crud (processed, deep fried junk). Even if some negligent parents send their kids off with a pack of Cheetos or some pop-tarts to eat, it still wouldn't be much worse than eating the school lunches. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| Abe Scrap wrote: |
| It isn't supposed to be a brainer: mom vs. the government. It is hard to believe some people are actually struggling with this one. |
I wouldn't doubt there are some people on here who'd like to abolish the family altogether... Just take all babies away at birth and have them raised by the state. If you gave Leon a magic wand to wave, he'd probably make it happen... |
Not everyone holds an extreme position on things. I do believe in choice, but I find that many choices parents make are dismal and damaging to the kids. I don't believe the state should dictate, it was more me being at work and being bored/slightly philosophical than advocating government control. I've read brave new world, I'm not a socialist, nice try though. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| johnnyenglishteacher2 wrote: |
| I don't think that banning packed lunches is the way forward, but more of a compromise is needed, for example schools should have the right to demand that parents actually send their sprogs to school with something nutritious |
Have you ever been to an American high school? Many of them are literally serviced by the same companies that service prisons. I kid you not. The food is absolute crud (processed, deep fried junk). Even if some negligent parents send their kids off with a pack of Cheetos or some pop-tarts to eat, it still wouldn't be much worse than eating the school lunches. |
I have seen US school "food" on TV only. I do not believe in the school continuing to feed the pupils mushed up recovered meat with fries - if the schools insist that parents send nutritious food, then their dining rooms should also be serving up good, healthy fare.
Obviously with the power that many of the catering companies have over local, state and federal (?) government this will be easier said than done. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
Not everyone holds an extreme position on things. I do believe in choice, but I find that many choices parents make are dismal and damaging to the kids. |
That's absolutely true. But it's also worked out pretty well for our species for tens of thousands of years, too. I think that when people take on the burden and responsibility of raising children, they also acquire the right to "parent" them as they see fit.
The only saving grace should be that children who fail because of terrible parents should be less likely to reproduce and repeat the cycle. But unfortunately, humanity has strayed rather far beyond the process of natural selection :- / |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| comm wrote: |
| I think that when people take on the burden and responsibility of raising children, they also acquire the right to "parent" them as they see fit. |
Where do you draw the line? Should parents be allowed to encourage 5 year olds to smoke? |
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