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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Trying to get in I single digit BF and saying you're not doing it for vanity?
Nothing wrong with lifting for aesthetics.
Post a pic of you at 10% bf |
Well, a healthy bodied athlete is supposed to be somewhere between 9%-13% anyway. I could hang out at 10% or so and be fine for what I do (kickboxing, triathlons, etc..) but there's nothing wrong with setting the goal to be at 9%. But I'm not sure how to post a pic on here. Educate me and I'll try to get it done.
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| How did you do it? Did you do it by yourself, or did you find a personal trainer helpful? |
A mix of both. Remember it took me years, it didn't happen overnight. My first gym had a trainer that got me through the basics. I worked with him 4 days a week for about 8 months. I couldn't have gotten started and into the routine without him. If you're just starting, I'd say a trainer or a friends that knows a lot about it is necessary. On into year 2 I could do most things on my own. I could read about workout and diet plans and new enough about both to be able to modify them for my needs and implement them. Recently I've taken back up with a trainer to get me through my slump and he's also my muay thai teacher so that helps. Believe it or not, youtube is a good resource. There are loads of trainers and pros on there making videos. Find a guy that is consistent with his content and stick with him. Some really know what they're talking about and are just putting the information out there at no cost to help others.
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| To the OP: Serious congrats on overcoming your probs and getting into great shape. Over the last 5 years, I've somewhat let myself go. Now, it's time to do something about it. I think the "easy life" in Korea can be detrimental to our health if we let it be. I think it's cool you took advantage of your situation and turned it into a good one... |
Thanks. I'm not going to lie, it always feels good to get compliments. But anyone can do this if they put forth the time and effort. You have to stick with it. This is why some have seen me throw flames at fat people on this forum. It's what they need. Everyone starts out strong for the first week or month, but then they fizzle. They need that fire reignited and get back to it when they slack off. But Rome wasn't built in a day. It can take months before you see real progress and years to look like what you want in the mirror. Especially if you do it natural. Now I've spent time in Thailand during this time and have been around guys that use gear and juice. And yeah they make incredible gains so fast, they leave me in the dust. It's frustrating how fast they recover, they're never hurt, and in 2 weeks their upping their lifts and lowering their run times exponentially. It was the hardest thing to stay clean while seeing all those guys run circles around me. [/quote] |
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:37 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't hating on you, it was a joke. A quote from the movie Zoolander when his father see's a commercial on TV of his son dressed up as a mermaid/merman.
I'm all about getting healthy and exercising, not to the extent that you are obviously, I arrive in Korea tomorrow and one of my main concerns is being able to keep up my cardio regime. I prefer cycling, even a stationary bike over distance running, running anything over 5 miles a day on a constant routine and my shin splits act right up. Also gonna have to figure out which Korean foods are "healthy" and ones which are full of calories. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010 Location: kOREA
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: |
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SAP: Speed and power in Konkuk
It's pretty hardcore and has kettle balls. I suppose a more hardcore gym exists, but I haven't seen it.
It's 100% what your looking for.
Also climbing places like the K-2 all in konkuk also attract some jacked dudes. I'm pretty sure they do that stuff.
Alot of casual gyms are owned by former competitors, so I'd ask them...expect some god awful meat head level of english though. |
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marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: where pretty lies perish
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| thread made me chuckle. thank you OP |
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tukmax
Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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To Decolyn, or anyone else reading this that is strong/athletic in Korea;
What do you guys eat in Korea? What are you favorite Korean dishes for recovery?
I find it challenging with Korea's rice based diet to get the protein I need. I sometimes eat Bi bim bap with several extra eggs on it. They charge an extra 500 won for each egg so its no big deal. I like Korean bbq too. Someone recommended me yuk gae jang, but I found that to be pretty weak. Just a little meat in it.
Also, Decolyn, what is your routine like? You said you want to be a body builder and you do distance running, but it takes a lot more than distance running to get ripped. I'm not doubting you I'm just wondering what you do when you went to the gym four times a week. Was it compound lifts, or more isolation type movements? |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I would rather be able to finish a triathlon and do a light weight routine after, than be able to bench press a car and not be able to jog for 5 minutes without clutching my chest. |
LOL
I look heavy muscular 6'3; my friend is a chinese dude, about 5'3 and skinny. He invited me to do a workout 'session' with him. He had me on the floor, twitching and gasping for air ( I thought I was going to Valhalla) within 20 minutes. He was cardio and endurance, and I thought i knew cardio  |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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tukmax food is not that difficult once you get in a routine with it. I do a lot of shopping at the store and cook at home. I can see how if you just ate Korean dishes it would be difficult to get enough protein and leafy greens. But at any major store in your area (Emart, Homeplus, etc) they will have a large selection of meats and greens. So on a typical weekend I'll pick up a pack of 80/20 ground beef (80%protein 20% fat) or a better ratio if they have it. Maybe one or two steaks, chicken breasts, chicken thighs for a little fat. Some carry ground turkey from time to time. I'm not good at cooking pork so I usually save that for when I go out to eat. Also fish I can't cook well so I save that for eating out as well.
And somewhere in your town will be some kind of veggie stand. Load up on spinach, broc, and any other dark green you see. Find recipes you like and just practice until you get them right. If I'm in a hurry (or lazy) I'll cook up a big pot of brown rice. Throw in some mixed veg while its cooking. Throw in some beans and let it cook. When it's finished I just put it in a large plastic bowl and throw it in the fridge. When I'm hungry I'll heat up a portion and dump a can of tuna on top of it.
But if you're going on just food, I don't think youll get enough protein. So you have to supplement with a good protein powder. The powder shouldn't be your main source of protein. It's called a supplement for a reason. Also look into protein bars or learning how to make your own.
When I go out to eat with friends, if we get galbi or samgyupsal, I just try to load up on as much as possible. I have eaten an entire order of galbi to myself before. Skip the white rice if it's after 5pm.
If it's to lose fat or bulk, you can't ignore food. Training too hard and not eating enough will cause your body to panic and hang on to fat. Don't kill your carbs, just limit them to good carbs and eat them sensibly.
Lifting:
I mix it up. Usually I do a routine for 6 weeks at a time and try something else. For example I may do 6 weeks of pure isolation with medium heavy weight. Next time it will be combination movements with heavy heavy weight. Then the next round will be power routines (snatches, cleans, twists, etc.) My favorite are circuit routines though. Look some up online and I promise they will kick your butt with the tiniest amount of weight. Cardio you have to keep mixing up. Get on a run plan, then change out for the bike, then the elyptical machine. The thing is, your body gets used to workout after a while. You have to shock it into growth or improvement. Mixing up your routines ever month-6weeks keeps you muscles guessing. Mixing up too often however wont allow time for growth. My 6 week method works for me, but you'll have to modify it for yourself.
Also, it's good to have a cheat meal once a week. Once or twice a week (hopefully in the same day) eat whatever you want. Make yourself sick off junk food. There's a thing called a "calorie spike" that's too long to go into detail here, but it works. Also, you need rest. Don't discount what 2 or 3 days off a week can do for you. Your body doesnt grow in the gym, the work gets done while you're in your bed asleep. So don't skip your sleep and remember that over training is just as bad as under training. |
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downstack
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Muscle Mania is coming to Seoul in September for a (supposedly) natural bodybuilding competition. |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Trying to get in I single digit BF and saying you're not doing it for vanity?
Nothing wrong with lifting for aesthetics.
Post a pic of you at 10% bf |
Well, a healthy bodied athlete is supposed to be somewhere between 9%-13% anyway. I could hang out at 10% or so and be fine for what I do (kickboxing, triathlons, etc..) but there's nothing wrong with setting the goal to be at 9%. But I'm not sure how to post a pic on here. Educate me and I'll try to get it done.
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| How did you do it? Did you do it by yourself, or did you find a personal trainer helpful? |
A mix of both. Remember it took me years, it didn't happen overnight. My first gym had a trainer that got me through the basics. I worked with him 4 days a week for about 8 months. I couldn't have gotten started and into the routine without him. If you're just starting, I'd say a trainer or a friends that knows a lot about it is necessary. On into year 2 I could do most things on my own. I could read about workout and diet plans and new enough about both to be able to modify them for my needs and implement them. Recently I've taken back up with a trainer to get me through my slump and he's also my muay thai teacher so that helps. Believe it or not, youtube is a good resource. There are loads of trainers and pros on there making videos. Find a guy that is consistent with his content and stick with him. Some really know what they're talking about and are just putting the information out there at no cost to help others.
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| To the OP: Serious congrats on overcoming your probs and getting into great shape. Over the last 5 years, I've somewhat let myself go. Now, it's time to do something about it. I think the "easy life" in Korea can be detrimental to our health if we let it be. I think it's cool you took advantage of your situation and turned it into a good one... |
Thanks. I'm not going to lie, it always feels good to get compliments. But anyone can do this if they put forth the time and effort. You have to stick with it. This is why some have seen me throw flames at fat people on this forum. It's what they need. Everyone starts out strong for the first week or month, but then they fizzle. They need that fire reignited and get back to it when they slack off. But Rome wasn't built in a day. It can take months before you see real progress and years to look like what you want in the mirror. Especially if you do it natural. Now I've spent time in Thailand during this time and have been around guys that use gear and juice. And yeah they make incredible gains so fast, they leave me in the dust. It's frustrating how fast they recover, they're never hurt, and in 2 weeks their upping their lifts and lowering their run times exponentially. It was the hardest thing to stay clean while seeing all those guys run circles around me. |
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upload photo to photobucket.com or similar site
copy the http link and post it |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Okay. I've never used photobucket before so I just threw this together fast. I don't have any pictures from the very start (3 years ago) but the first picture is from about 2 years ago. Before that just imagine fatter and a lot less muscle. At first I was all about weights and got into running and cardio later. In the picture I'm about 25% body fat. Maybe year one I was near 35% or more.
The second picture is from a March. Here I'm hovering above 10%. Maybe 11%, but certainly not more. I actually bounce around 10%-11%, it's really hard to break this slump.
So that's about a 2 year span. It could have gone faster, but I didn't really focus on my nutrition and cardio enough. Food makes all the difference in the world. I swear it's 85% of the whole thing. The time in the gym is only 10% and supplements are maybe 5% when used correctly. Get your nutrition in check and everything just falls into place. It took me a year and a half at least to learn that.
http://s1109.photobucket.com/albums/h438/decolyon/ |
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highstreet
Joined: 13 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: |
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shredded bro
looks like u had a good bit of muscle in the first pic just covered with fat  |
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CousinNZ
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Decolyon,
Looks like you have worked really hard, nice job.
In April I competed in the Korean Muscle Mania contest and placed 2nd.
Was my first time competing, I really enjoyed it and will be looking at competing again next spring.
I am a personal trainer here in Seoul and own small gym near Itaewon.
Let me know if you would like to drop in for a chat as I would be happy to help you out.
You can reach me at [email protected]
Keep up the good work, |
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jlee83
Joined: 20 Sep 2010 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:07 am Post subject: |
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Nice, it's good to see that hard work does pay off!
Can you tell us your height and weight? |
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decolyon
Joined: 24 Jul 2010
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, it's good to see that hard work does pay off!
Can you tell us your height and weight? |
6 foot flat.
1st picture about 235lbs, maybe 240.
2nd picture 185lbs. But depends on how much water I'm holding at the moment. I stay very well hydrated. I've been 189lbs on Monday morning after a weekend off, and down to 182lbs by Friday evening, totally dried out. So on any given day I'm going to fall somewhere in that range. |
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