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myenglishisno
Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon
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 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching material that is clearly over the kid's heads.. |
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| Geumchondave wrote: |
| myenglishisno wrote: |
| WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
How do you achieve an over? And what is an over? |
It's the opposite of an under, of course. Duh. |
Bloody americans....... what is an over indeed, an over is the exact amount of time it takes the finish a pimms and lemonade whilst watching people throw a cricket ball around |
I'm not American but I appreciate your explanation of the fancy/schmancy sports you play across the pond  |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| This reminds me of my first hagwon stint. My moron boss insisted on conducting telephone English sessions with students who could barely say the ABC. A lot of dead air ensued.... |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching material that is clearly over the kid's heads.. |
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| WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
How do you achieve an over? And what is an over? |
...well done!  |
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MyNameIsNobody
Joined: 12 Jan 2011
Location: Here
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Teaching material that is clearly over the kid's heads.. |
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| myenglishisno wrote: |
| Geumchondave wrote: |
| myenglishisno wrote: |
| WadRUG'naDoo wrote: |
How do you achieve an over? And what is an over? |
It's the opposite of an under, of course. Duh. |
Bloody americans....... what is an over indeed, an over is the exact amount of time it takes the finish a pimms and lemonade whilst watching people throw a cricket ball around |
I'm not American but I appreciate your explanation of the fancy/schmancy sports you play across the pond |
Ah yes, definitely not an American problem. I know because I grew up with both the Brit. and Amer. systems of English. That same arrogance many non-Americans hate about Americans is just as ugly the other way around.
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The parents somehow believe that if their children take more difficult classes then they will learn more. In actuality, students will learn optimally by being placed at the appropriate level. |
Personally I prefer a n+1 approach. |
Seconded. Pushing kids a bit out of their comfort zone is the best way to challenge them. In a few of my classes, I think the text is a little too advanced for my students. I've only been in Korea for about a week, but my director is already asking about new textbooks for the students. While it will be nice to weigh in on the new curriculum, I'm a little nervous about picking our future materials. I had teaching/tutoring experience before coming to Korea, and I've even worked with ESL/EFL students. However, figuring out where I need to go next with the kids will be an interesting (read mild panic attack) experience. |
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MollyBloom
Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: |
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What's it mean "to teach?" You want the kids to learn the meaning of the sonnet and be able to explain it in detail? Or do you just want them to memorize it and be able to recite it? Plenty of kids back home learn a famous quote or passage or speech when they are young and say it from memory at a school event.
I'd say don't take it so seriously and do it. Make it fun by having the kids put a lot of emotion into parts. They'll probably get a kick out of it, if you do it right (big hand gestures, loud voice/soft voice, etc).
Now, if you're talking about getting them to be able to understand it and explain it and doing this with many difficult texts - no, big waste of time. But if you're only talking 1 piece 1 time, make it into a couple of lessons. First lesson, introduce it and practice getting them to read/say the words. Get them to memorize the parts. Second lesson, actually talk about the meaning. Sure, not going to be useful for much other than making mom happy, but it's not impossible. |
Great post. +1. Have fun with it, let them get kind of kooky. They probably just want them to recite it so that they can show off. If you have any props, that would be even better. You could also have them make simple props, since they are 2nd graders.
This reminds me of a high school English class I once had. My best friend and I had to do a dialogue from Macbeth. My friend got an absurd Halloween mask and wrote her lines with marker on the inside of the mask. It was so hot and sweaty in the room and the lines transferred to her face. We got a standing ovation from my teacher....until she took the mask off... |
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