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Harmless jest or incitement to racial hatred/victimisation?
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komtengi



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Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Don't try to be pedantic when you don't know what you're talking about. Wae nom is another well-known anti-Japanese slur.


I was saying chopari has a stronger racist conotation. Wae nom is generally used for Japanese men... As for being pedantic... Rolling Eyes
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hear you, but remember the Japanese gov. has never apologised for the attrocities that it committed during WW2.


Another typically specious claim from Harpeau. This has been discussed before as you well know.

Here is a list of apologies.


Date Personal Statement
1
24 Aug. 1982 Prime Minister Zenko Suzuki
/ Press Conference in Japan "I am painfully aware of Japan's responsibility for inflicting serious damages [on some Asian countries] during the past war."
"We need to recognize that there are criticisms [Japan's occupation] was invasion."
2
12 Jan. 1983 Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone
/ meeting with President Chun Doo- Hwan in South Korea "It is regrettable that the history of the bilateral relations had its unhappy page."
"Japanese must recognize its fact and take it to heart."
3 7 Sep. 1984 Emperor Showa
/ meeting with President Chun Doo-Hwan in Japan "It is indeed regrettable that there was an unfortunate past between us for a period in this century and I believe that it should not be repeated again."
4 7 Sep. 1984 Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone
/ meeting with President Chun Doo- Hwan in South Korea "There was a period in this century when Japan brought to bear great sufferings upon your country and its people. I would like to state here that the government and people of Japan feel a deep regret for this error and are determined firmly to warn ourselves for the future."
5 25 May. 1990 Prime Minister Tosiki Kaifu
/ meeting with President Roh Tea-Woo in Japan "I would like to take the opportunity here to humbly reflect upon how the people of the Korean Peninsula went through unbearable pain and sorrow as a result of our country's actions during a certain period in the past and to express that we are sorry."
6 25 May. 1990 Emperor Heisei
/ meeting with President Roh Tea-Woo in Japan "I think of the suffering your people underwent during this unfortunate period, which was brought about by my country, and cannot but feel the deepest regret."
7 17 Jun. 1992 Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa
/ meeting with President Roh Tae-Woo in South Korea "Undeniably this was an act with the involvement of the military authorities of the day that severely injured the honor and��dignity of many women. The government of Japan would��like to take this opportunity once again to extend its��sincere apologies and remorse to all those."
8 11 Aug. 1993 Prime Minister Morihiro Hosokawa
/ Press Conference in Japan "It [the Sino-Japanese War and the Pacific War] was a war of aggression."
9 7 Nov. 1993 Prime Minister Morihiro Hosokawa
/ meeting with President Kim Young-Sam in South Korea "I would thus like to take this opportunity to express anew our profound remorse and apologies for the fact that past Japanese actions."
10 24 Jul. 1994 Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama
/ meeting with President Kim Dae-Jung in South Korea "I'd like to express my apology from the bottom of my heart and deep regret seriously."
11 15 Aug. 1995 Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama
/ In Japan / statement of the 50th anniversary of Japan's defeat in the war "During a certain period in the not-too-distant past, Japan, through its colonial rule and aggression, caused tremendous damage and suffering to the people of many countries, particularly those of Asia. In the hope that no such mistake will be made in the future, I regard, in a spirit of humanity, these irrefutable facts of history, and express here once again my feelings of deep remorse and state my heartfelt apology."
12 23 Jun. 1996 Prime Minister Ryutaro Hashimoto
/ meeting with President Kim Yong-sam in South Korea Hashimoto also touched on other aspects of Japan's colonial rule of the Korean Peninsula such as the forced Japanization of Korean people's name and said "It is beyond imagination how this injured the hearts of Korean people" At a joint news conference after summit, Hashimoto touched on the issue of former sex slaves of the Imperial Japanese Army, many of whom were Koreans, and said "Nothing injured the honor and dignity of women more than this and I would like to extend words of soul-searching and apology from the bottom of my heart."
13 8 Oct. 1998 Emperor Heisei
/ meeting with Presiden Kim Dae-Jung in Japan [There was] "one period when Japan brought great suffering in the people of the Korean Peninsula,"
"The deep sorrow which I feel over this never leaves my memory,"
14 8 Oct. 1998 Prime Minister Keizo Obuchi
/ Japan-Republic of Korea Joint Declaration
A New Japan-Republic of Korea Partnership towards the Twenty-first Century "Looking back on the relations between Japan and the Republic of Korea during this century, Prime Minister Obuchi regarded in a spirit of humility the fact of history that Japan caused, during a certain period in the past, tremendous damage and suffering to the people of the Republic of Korea through its colonial rule, and expressed his deep remorse and heartfelt apology for this fact.
President Kim accepted with sincerity this statement of Prime Minister Obuchi's recognition of history and expressed his appreciation for it. He also expressed his view that the present calls upon both countries to overcome their unfortunate history and to build a future-oriented relationship based on reconciliation as well as good-neighborly and friendly cooperation."
15 15 Oct. 2001 Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi
/ meeting with President Kim Dae-Jung in South Korea "I sincerely regret and apologize from my heart for the losses and pain inflicted on the Korean people by Japan's colonial rule."

This is the link.

Will you admit that you were wrong, harpeau? And maybe even apologize to the Japanese people for condemning them on hearsay? (one would think you would since you think that apologies are so important.
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