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Kuros
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| Louis VI wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| The fact that so many students need to be suspended or expelled demonstrates that schools need more real disciplinary tools available to them. |
See? The right wing solution: MORE punishment!
Such logic has MILLIONS of Americans in jail today. |
*laughing*
You gotta be a regular moonbat if you're calling Fox a right-winger. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| Gorf wrote: |
| Let the south secede again and make sure they take Texas and Florida |
Yip Yip Yip Ho Haw Texas shall rise up again and smite the north someday.
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| tatertot wrote: |
| It all comes back to the parents. It is the responsibility of the parents to instill values and enforce discipline. Unfortunately, parents are getting lazier and now expect the schools to not only educate their children, but to raise them as well! Then, when schools discipline the children, many parents refuse to believe that their "little angel" could possibly be the cause of the problem. When did parents become so worthless? |
I don't know if I agree with that entirely. Values need to be included in school and taught to kids early on in elementary school. Another thing too, schools began as a means of taking care of and instilling values in children while the parents were either working or doing other things. Children became relatively worthless on the farm and also during the Industrial revolution with the child labor laws that were enacted. Schools nowadays are seen as nothing more than a training area to prepare children for jobs. The emphasis on improving math skill, reading skills, science skills to compete with the world market is not enough. In a lot of educators opinions it is just producing hedonistic individuals with no concern for anything else. It seems to me a lot of youth are hedonistic already and don't see any need for any education period. Teaching morals in school early on may help with that also. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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I disagree with schools teaching morals. That's what parents are for. Schools are there to equip my child with various skills and enable them to have knowledge of scholastic subjects. In particular they exist to provide things like science labs and other resources that an individual family could not have.
As for discipline, letting the inmates run the asylum hasn't worked, time to bring back the old stick. Sadly, humanity is not as good as we wished it was.
That and the compulsory requirement for children beyond 8th grade needs to be dropped. Throw em into cheap labor so maybe they'll get a clue and run begging back to school to escape that lifestyle. Or they can go and have freedom and get drunk at 16 and lose a finger in the machinery. |
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