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[Swiss James]

I was just wondering where it is and how long it would take me to get to work from there

Speaking as someone who used to come to korea for 3 week business trips I quite honestly had no motivation to learn to read hangeul or speak more than a few lines of korean. A foreign ghetto would have seemed like the ideal place to stay

[Tiger Beer]

This isn�t a segregation move by the Koreans.

This is something that businessmen probably want. They have the money and probably feel no need or interest whatsover to deal with all the typical Korean housing situations (that english teachers often complain about).

Plus they may or may not have wives and kids.. but if they do.. they can socialize together and have thier own community and programs and all the rest that they may want as businessmen�s familys.

Also, businessmen by nature prefer to shmooze and make connections and this and that and the other thing. Nothing is better than living in a community of fellow similar people to make connections, deals, new contracts, and whatever else.. yadda yadda yadda.

[chiaa]

Just think how quite that area will be!

http://www.whatthebook.com

[Yaya]

[peppermint]

Kristsoy, Ilsanman, you guys are missing the point. Peasants like us would be just as out of place in one of these areas as a Korean would. These kinds of places are aimed at top level foreign executives- the guys that come here for a week, stay at the Hyatt and find it sub par.

These people wouldn't be paying for it directly, their company probably would.

[itaewonguy]

sounds like a multi million dollar adventure to me...
businessman which companies they work for will pay 5 -10 million a month to live there.. but hey you get a gym and a swimming pool...
this is nothing new! un village anyone? han nam village?

I met a contractor a few months back in the 3 alley pub.. he was here building apartments he had just finished building the ones in chamsils..
they were selling for 3 million dollars each.. and they were all sold..
all 300 hundred of them....

3 million !!!! WTF!! come on!!! and they were basic apartments...
48 pyung etc... give me a break!!!

3 million dont quote me.. but I know it was a couple million...
even its 1 million... thats crazy!!!

[dogbert]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Real Reality]

You probably live in a 10 - 34 pyung place (scroll down).

Housing list for rent near the base in Seoul korea
Asking Price:
Over 100 pyung
12,000,000 KRW/Month -- $10,000 USD/Month

85-99 pyung
7,000,000 KRW/Month -- $5,833 USD/Month
8,000,000 KRW/Month -- $6,666 USD/Month
9,000,000 KRW/Month -- $7,500 USD/Month

55-80 pyung
5,000,000 KRW/Month -- $4,166 USD/Month
4,700,000 KRW/Month -- $3,917 USD/Month
4,500,000 KRW/Month -- $3,750 USD/Month

30-45 pyung
2,400,000 KRW/Month -- $2,000 USD/Month
2,300,000 KRW/Month -- $1,917 USD/Month

12-30 pyung
1,750,000 KRW/Month -- $1,458 USD/Month
1,300,000 KRW/Month -- $1,083 USD/Month
1,000,000 KRW/Month -- $833 USD/Month
(prices found at http://www.usfk.net)

Are foreigners provided with the "biggest and best" or the "smallest and worst"?

And, my housing is not free. I have to pay a monthly rental fee. Of course, I pay for utilities and phone.

How big is your place?
Here is the minimum for a private in the U.S. military
Housing Size
Rank: E1-E6 (Private to Sergeant)
Minimum: 16 Pyung (600 SF).

Some foreign professors are provided smallers places than a private (E1) in the U.S. military.

Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA) is an entitlement authorized to assist a member in defraying the excess housing cost incurred incident to assignment to an OCONUS permanent Duty Station (PDS). The maximum amount of authorized OHA (OHA ceiling) is based on location, the soldier's rank, and whether the soldier has command sponsored dependents in country. Then entitlement is paid monthly to the soldiers Lease and Earning Statement (LES). OHA is initiated and paid effective the date of the lease and stopped the day the lease is terminated.

OHA helps offset housing costs, which are made up of:
- Rent
- Utility and recurring maintenance expenses
- Move-in housing allowance (MIHA)
- Move-in housing allowance-realtor's fee
(Overseas Housing Allowance) RATES
RANK ............ MONTHLY AMT ........ MONTHLY AMT
E1~E9, O1 ..... 2,829,060 ............... 3,143,400
W1~W5,
O1E~O3E,
O2~O4 .......... 3,172,788 ............... 3,525,320

UTILITY RATE: 370,560 (or 494,080)
Move-in housing allowance: 916,020 (or 916 020)
http://www.usfk.net/mn_rentaltip/rentaltip_oha.asp

U.S. Military Ranks and Units
http://www.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/personal/faculty/pocock/ranks.htm
Army -- Air Force
E-1 Private (Recruit) -- Airman Basic
E-2 Private First Class -- Airman
E-3 Specialist -- Airman First Class
E-4 Corporal -- Senior Airman
=== Sergeant ===
E-5 Staff Sergeant -- Staff Sergeant
E-6 Sergeant First Class -- Technical Sergeant
E-7 Master Sergeant -- First Sergeant (Master Sergeant)
E-8 First Sergeant -- First Sergeant (Senior Master Sergeant)
Also see:
http://www.morehead-st.edu/colleges/education/military/rank.html

U.S. Military Monthly Basic Pay Table
http://www.dod.mil/militarypay/pay/bp/paytables/Jan2004.html
Basic Allowance for Subsistence (Monthly Meals Allowance)
http://www.dod.mil/militarypay/pay/bas/index.html

CANADA
Military Rent Share Rates
http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dcba/mfs/engraph/Rent_Share_e.asp?sidesection=2&sidecat=10

Government Travel & Living Accommodations
Military Daily Meal Allowance in South Korea (Currency; won)
Seoul: 112,800
Other: 90,240
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/TBM_113/td-dv-d-4_e.asp#K

Regular Force Non Commissioned Members (NCM) Rates
http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dppd/pay/engraph/NCMRegFPayRate_e.asp?sidesection=3&sidecat=28

[DJTwoTone]

There used to be a really good start on as foriegn ghetto here in Ulsan. It was on this nice hill over looking a river valley. There were sticking all the foriegn teachers and Russian girls there. It was well on it's way to becoming a Little Not-Korea... I'm not sure if there still sticking people there or not. Anyway, here's the kicker. It turns out rent on the hill was extremely cheap and nobody wanted to live there, for one simple reason. Not too many years ago, that hill was home to a big ole leper colony.

[Ilsanman]

I have met very few foreigners who don't want to at least learn enough Korean to order food, a beer, etc.

I hope I am not being considered for a ghetto. I won't live there.