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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| This is not a simple issue. Many foods will last for years beyond their "Best By" dates and can still be safely eaten, although the taste will be affected a great deal over time - bottled beverages, cereals, heavily processed foods etc. Peanut butter in unopened cans can last, and be consumable, for at least 3 decades. Mold can be cut off moldy cheese and the remaining cheese is still fine to eat. Eggs will last for weeks without refrigeration. Spoiled milk is used to make sour-dough bread ... |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| This is not a simple issue. Many foods will last for years beyond their "Best By" dates and can still be safely eaten, although the taste will be affected a great deal over time - bottled beverages, cereals, heavily processed foods etc. Peanut butter in unopened cans can last, and be consumable, for at least 3 decades. Mold can be cut off moldy cheese and the remaining cheese is still fine to eat. Eggs will last for weeks without refrigeration. Spoiled milk is used to make sour-dough bread ... |
According to my older sis(and others), who did one of her under-graduate degrees in nutrition, u should b very careful with peanut butter and salmonella. unopened? maybe. but once that three-yr-old(30-year-old!?!) stuff is opened, u'd better get it in the fridge ASAP! |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| cantralcali, what kind of food-borne illnesses aren't obvious? |
Hepatitis comes to mind, as does E-Coli. There are various other FBI that are not apparent to the naked eye or nose. |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what the law in Korea is on this issue.
But, in the US, use by/sell by/best by dates are a marketing gimmick. There are NO federal requirements for labeling on any food product EXCEPT certain baby foods and infant formula. There are some states that require dates, but their use is neither uniform nor regulated beyond the state. I'm sure if you do some research into your home countries and Korea, you'll probably find that the same is true there, too.
This whole issue is just marketing.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/food_product_dating/index.asp |
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sofaking
Joined: 30 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| nathanrutledge wrote: |
I don't know what the law in Korea is on this issue.
But, in the US, use by/sell by/best by dates are a marketing gimmick. There are NO federal requirements for labeling on any food product EXCEPT certain baby foods and infant formula. There are some states that require dates, but their use is neither uniform nor regulated beyond the state. I'm sure if you do some research into your home countries and Korea, you'll probably find that the same is true there, too.
This whole issue is just marketing.
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/factsheets/food_product_dating/index.asp |
Exactly... Use By dates are a load of BS. They are government induced controls for the pussies out there. Smell, taste.. if it is going to hurt you, your senses will know. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| nathanrutledge wrote: |
| But, in the US, use by/sell by/best by dates are a marketing gimmick. |
How is limiting the period of time during which you can sell a product a good idea for a marketing gimmick?
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| Smell, taste.. if it is going to hurt you, your senses will know. |
Like I mentioned before, you often won't be able to taste or smell the product until you've already purchased it. Shrink-wrapped meat, cartons of milk, blocks of cheese...
I see product dating as a bit of friendly advice. It also saves stores and food producers from spoiled food law suits since the dates are obviously erring on the side of caution and food is guaranteed to have a longer shelf life than indicated, even if by a mere day or two.
I do agree though, anybody who checks the date and immediately throws expired food out is a wimp. It doesn't take much to deduce that milk has spoiled or chicken has gone rancid. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| denverdeath wrote: |
According to my older sis(and others), who did one of her under-graduate degrees in nutrition, u should b very careful with peanut butter and salmonella. unopened? maybe. but once that three-yr-old(30-year-old!?!) stuff is opened, u'd better get it in the fridge ASAP! |
Yes. 30 years and more. I have personally opened and served hundreds of #10 cans of peanut butter, to thousands of people, that was marked and packaged 20, 30 and more years prior - our record can was 37 years old. The peanut butter was fine, although some was a bit dry. Yes, once the cans were opened we refrigerated any leftovers (we used several cans per day), but they had not been refrigerated in any of the years prior.
This peanut butter was distributed to us by the US government - good ol' USDA, 30 year fresh, #10 canned, grade who-cares, surplus peanut butter. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| denverdeath wrote: |
According to my older sis(and others), who did one of her under-graduate degrees in nutrition, u should b very careful with peanut butter and salmonella. unopened? maybe. but once that three-yr-old(30-year-old!?!) stuff is opened, u'd better get it in the fridge ASAP! |
Yes. 30 years and more. I have personally opened and served hundreds of #10 cans of peanut butter, to thousands of people, that was marked and packaged 20, 30 and more years prior - our record can was 37 years old. The peanut butter was fine, although some was a bit dry. Yes, once the cans were opened we refrigerated any leftovers (we used several cans per day), but they had not been refrigerated in any of the years prior.
This peanut butter was distributed to us by the US government - good ol' USDA, 30 year fresh, #10 canned, grade who-cares, surplus peanut butter. |
hope u didn't pay top-dollar for it!  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I remember in food safety training the dairy experts taught us that milk losses a day off of its "life" for every hour it is left out at room temperature.
I cannot imagine consuming milk here weeks after the date. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| Adults would probably get sick but children could die from bad food. |
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