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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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 Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Whats the employment rate for MBA grads?
How many end up not working in their field for a lesser salary or not working at all?
How many retain their jobs?
The conclusion of this blog blurb : I consider that when we do the rankings again in 2010 we�ll have a much contrasting (and far more sad) tale to tell. Thus enjoy these figures while you can.
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Exactly. American law schools are pulling that trick, so I would assume MBA programs are as well. Take part-time work, or work outside the discipline of study, and use those for your total employment statistics. Then take all the people who get in-discipline jobs and use their salary numbers as your official salary numbers. You end up with a 95% employment rate and a starting salary of $100,000 even though neither number is really honest. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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The unemployment rate for professionals is 3.9 percent. The unemployment rate for �production occupations� is 14.9 percent.
Moreover, despite Wall Street�s woes, financial service industry professionals remain among the most employed sectors of the economy, which makes it easy to understand popular anger at the financial industry bailout. The unemployment rate for people who work in finance is 6.8 percent, substantially below the national average. Only a few other industries, like education and health services, which has a 4.5 percent unemployment rate, and the public sector, where unemployment is only 2.8 percent, have remained more stable.
The epicenter of the recession is in construction, where the unemployment rate is running at 21.1 percent. Agriculture is a close second, with a 19 percent unemployment rate. Durable goods manufacturing runs a distant third: 13.1 percent of its workers are unemployed. This doesn�t seem like a different sort of recession. These sectors also bore much of the brunt of the downturn in the 1980s and the 1930s.
Just as in the past, unemployment is disproportionately concentrated among minorities and among the young. The white unemployment rate is 8.5 percent. The African-American unemployment rate is 13.5 percent. More than one in five 16- to 19-year-olds are unemployed. More than 30 percent of African-Americans in that age category are unemployed. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The statistics you're citing suffer the same problem that university employment statistics do. A lot of those college grads are working the jobs previously worked by the uneducated. Are they unemployed? No. Are they underemployed? Surely. If you're getting paid $20 an hour to do proofreading after you've spend $200,000+ getting your law degree, you're not getting paid as much as you need to. |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: university jobs |
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If you are not picky about where you want to work, and you wait for the last minute, there are pleny of schools that will hire just about any one.
Some times teachers do not show up, or the school decided that they wanted some one yesterday. Just make sure that you have all your paper work done, and you are ready to leave and come here at the drop of a hat. |
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seansmith
Joined: 31 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I worked at a university that is typically ranked from 7th - 10th in Korea. The contract at that time was very good. Anyone without an MEd TESOL Degree or M.A. in Applied Linguistics was not interviewed or considered for the job. I was on the hiring committee which consisted of 2 other expat faculty and a Korean professor. We asked a series of content and methodology related questions and if they stumbled on those, they were out. We did also attempt to get a sense of their personalities and "EQ" since working well with people is important. No friends were interviewed - they were all unknown.
A friend of mine with a CELTA and 7 years ESL adult teaching experience couldn't get a job at uni in Seoul, but he was able to get a job at a uni in Ansan, a satellite city of Seoul. If Seoul is the dream, by all means go for it. But if you struggle to get a uni job there because your Master's isn't completed, or for other reasons, then targeting a satellite city uni like my friend did is an easier route to take. Failing that, you'll have to try other cities where it's considerably easier to get uni work. After teaching there for a couple of years, and with a Master's in hand, you'll be in a stronger position get the Seoul uni positions - if that's your wish. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| If you're getting paid $20 an hour to do proofreading after you've spend $200,000+ getting your law degree, you're not getting paid as much as you need to. |
So the best option for a person in that situation is to come to Korea to teach English? And compete for uni positions that have loads of applicants for each position opening? |
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