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Teaching three middle aged Korean ladies. Need ideas please!
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taught a lot of adults, and usually they just ask for casual conversation for an hour. You absolutely do need a more rigid curriculum if you want the class to go longer than one month.

I highly recommend the textbook Interchange.
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ajosshi



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swinewho wrote:
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David Deubelbeiss (via Robert Heinlein) says "When one teaches, two learn." Great quote.


Unless you were teaching:


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When one teaches, three learn. --ajosshi
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bekinseki wrote:
I've taught a lot of adults, and usually they just ask for casual conversation for an hour. You absolutely do need a more rigid curriculum if you want the class to go longer than one month.


Absolutely agree. Everything might seem swell, then suddenly they cancel when they intuitively realise they're going nowhere.

Vonjunk!!! Do I have a hot plan for you or what!!

Each class one of the students must have prepared a topic of her choice. Let's say kimchi.

The student must look on the internet and write down everything in Korean about kimchi, its origins, vitamin content, the works.

Then translate to English.

This one student begins her presentation. You let it flow unless there is a glaring error. Write the error ridden sentence on the board and ask the others what's wrong with it.

Every minute, regardless, stop the student and get the other two to ask a question. Often they won't be able to formulate a question. If they can't then you ask something on their behalf.

They will dislike this type of class b/c it means prep for them plus pressure during the presentation. But they will also quickly sense the rapid improvement in their English and stick with you.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What usually happens with above scenario is that even if the students agree to that most of the time they never do it. They will sit there and say they forgot or some other garbage which means all eyes are on you to teach a good detailed lesson on the spot. Always have a lesson or lessons prepared. Go in EXPECTING they won't do what they are supposed to.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
What usually happens with above scenario is that even if the students agree to that most of the time they never do it.


For sure!!

However, since there are three of them, there is a good chance that one will bite.

And some momentum might be gained when the other two see how successful it is.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
www.breakingnewsenglish.com

For more formal lessons, this site is awesome. Fully prepped lessons with tons of timely topics. Find out what they're interested in, print them up and have discussions.

These articles are not as interesting to adult Korean learners as many on these forums seem to think. The site has its merits & I credit its creator, but many of its articles are of marginal interest at best & the follow-up activities all follow the exact same limited formula.

Use the site sparingly, sure, but overuse will lead to tedium for your students. I've heard this from adult students of other teachers. Relying on breakingnewsenglish is akin to trotting out a Dear Abby column every week. It looks lazy.

Mix it up. Put some originality into your lesson schemes.

[Not suggesting you dont, seoulsucker.]
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vonjunk



Joined: 31 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent look at some options and, like several of you pointed out, the free discussion class is the route to nowhere.

Already lost one of the ladies to schedules, but the other two seem to still want to give it a try. Now, it's up to me to dazzle them into the English world.

Thank you for all who reminded me about structure in ESL and how it's needed, even with adults.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Illysook wrote:
The best part of teaching is that you are always learning.


David Deubelbeiss (via Robert Heinlein) says "When one teaches, two learn." Great quote.


Rolling Eyes Maybe in your classes. In my classes there are 20 or more students.

My catchphrase is when one teaches 35 learn. Wink
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