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Savant
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| Walking into a British Supermarket, I appreciate that I can readily buy fish without all the bones still attached. |
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sadguy
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Korean food can be pretty great if you dig on the red pepper paste. If you don't like it, you are up shit creek. |
yeah. gochujang is the reason why i get sick of eating korean food too much. it's just way too overused. |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with the common sentiment that Korean food is generally some pretty nasty stuff. It take quite a few slugs of soju to makeit palatable. Good luck pushing rubbery rice cakes and spicy fish bone soups on Westerners, which the Korean gov seems gung-ho about. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| rainism wrote: |
| Korean "cuisine" evolved out of what they had to eat.. and could eat. |
Isn't this true for most places? The Cantonese eat virtually everything, because their long history of wars and famine forced people to 'experiment' with 'new' food sources. Same goes for the French. I'm sure some Frenchman didn't wake up one day and wondered what frog legs would taste like. Some famine probably forced them to start eating frogs. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Judging by what most people here claim is Korean food, most people here aren't eating the full spectrum of Korean food.
But yeah most of us are exposed to ChunGookKimBap and Samgyupsal fare.
Not to get all apoligsta here, but consider how many meals at a diner are either cheesed or deep fat fried and then compare that to a KimBapNara and how many meals are gochudrowned. Rates the same. I'd submit that cheesed or deep fat fried is just as bad.
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| Good luck pushing rubbery rice cakes and spicy fish bone soups on Westerners, which the Korean gov seems gung-ho about. |
Luck isn't necessary. There were no less than 8 Korean restaurants in my hometown of 150,000 and everyone knew what bibimbap was. Of course this in an extremely multicultural city where even the poorest of poor folks knew how to use chopsticks and people would laugh at you if you had never eaten sushi before and were all freaked out about it. I mean Ramadan was a borderline school holiday.... |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
Judging by what most people here claim is Korean food, most people here aren't eating the full spectrum of Korean food.
But yeah most of us are exposed to ChunGookKimBap and Samgyupsal fare.
Not to get all apoligsta here, but consider how many meals at a diner are either cheesed or deep fat fried and then compare that to a KimBapNara and how many meals are gochudrowned. Rates the same. I'd submit that cheesed or deep fat fried is just as bad.
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| Good luck pushing rubbery rice cakes and spicy fish bone soups on Westerners, which the Korean gov seems gung-ho about. |
Luck isn't necessary. There were no less than 8 Korean restaurants in my hometown of 150,000 and everyone knew what bibimbap was. Of course this in an extremely multicultural city where even the poorest of poor folks knew how to use chopsticks and people would laugh at you if you had never eaten sushi before and were all freaked out about it. I mean Ramadan was a borderline school holiday.... |
What Korean food have you eaten that is so different to everything else? Being married into a Korean family has given me the opportunity to try a lot of authentic Korean cooking, but I haven't seen a great deal of variety in terms of ingredients, cooking methods or taste. That's not to say you can't get good quality ingredients. Korean beef is expensive but it is pretty damn good.
I agree with the cheese thing. I don't understand how people can love cheese (a soured bovine lactate) and be reviled by kimchi. |
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Triban
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
Location: Suwon Station
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
I'll say this, I don't know about food/cuisine, but Mexicans are hands-down the best cooks per capita in the world and can make lemons out of lemonade. I'd put the Chinese in a close second with probably some Middle-Easterners/Greeks third.
I mean your French, Spanish, and Italian chefs are great and all, but get them out of their element and they are 'meh'.
Mexicans you could throw in any kitchen around the world and within two meals they'd have it tasting great.
I think food is probably going to decline in any developed country. People grow up with supermarkets and instant food and whatnot and don;t develop those third-world cooking skills.
Look at what happened with Korea and the liberal doses of corn syrup in the Ddukbokki. I bet if you ate ddukbokki 40 years ago it'd taste a heckuva lot better than it does now. |
Steelrails, we are definitely in agreement here.
Mexicans are the Kings and Queens of culinary arts when out or in their element. Sure you say, "but the celebrity chefs aren't Mexican!" Oh, but you know who is working in the kitchen while they are smiling greeting tables? Bingo.
Aside that, Mexican and Mediterranean food are in my top 3. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
What Korean food have you eaten that is so different to everything else? Being married into a Korean family has given me the opportunity to try a lot of authentic Korean cooking, but I haven't seen a great deal of variety in terms of ingredients, cooking methods or taste. That's not to say you can't get good quality ingredients. Korean beef is expensive but it is pretty damn good.
I agree with the cheese thing. I don't understand how people can love cheese (a soured bovine lactate) and be reviled by kimchi. |
Home cooking isn't really a good comparison. I mean my mom was a great cook but had the same somewhat limited rotation of food going on. She did a couple of "exotic" dishes but overall very meat-potatos-veg.
I don't think what's seen as traditionally Western food is bursting with variety. The main problem with Korea is that ethnic food wasn't really on the radar until very recently. |
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shapeshifter
Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Location: Paris
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| cj1976 wrote: |
What Korean food have you eaten that is so different to everything else? Being married into a Korean family has given me the opportunity to try a lot of authentic Korean cooking, but I haven't seen a great deal of variety in terms of ingredients, cooking methods or taste. That's not to say you can't get good quality ingredients. Korean beef is expensive but it is pretty damn good.
I agree with the cheese thing. I don't understand how people can love cheese (a soured bovine lactate) and be reviled by kimchi. |
Home cooking isn't really a good comparison. I mean my mom was a great cook but had the same somewhat limited rotation of food going on. She did a couple of "exotic" dishes but overall very meat-potatos-veg.
I don't think what's seen as traditionally Western food is bursting with variety. The main problem with Korea is that ethnic food wasn't really on the radar until very recently. |
I had no idea Kimchi could be so unfriendly. Why not limit yourself to using words whose meaning you actually know? I'm embarrassed for you. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| shapeshifter wrote: |
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| cj1976 wrote: |
What Korean food have you eaten that is so different to everything else? Being married into a Korean family has given me the opportunity to try a lot of authentic Korean cooking, but I haven't seen a great deal of variety in terms of ingredients, cooking methods or taste. That's not to say you can't get good quality ingredients. Korean beef is expensive but it is pretty damn good.
I agree with the cheese thing. I don't understand how people can love cheese (a soured bovine lactate) and be reviled by kimchi. |
Home cooking isn't really a good comparison. I mean my mom was a great cook but had the same somewhat limited rotation of food going on. She did a couple of "exotic" dishes but overall very meat-potatos-veg.
I don't think what's seen as traditionally Western food is bursting with variety. The main problem with Korea is that ethnic food wasn't really on the radar until very recently. |
I had no idea Kimchi could be so unfriendly. Why not limit yourself to using words whose meaning you actually know? I'm embarrassed for you. |
Haha, I realised it as soon as I re-read it. I meant revolted or disgusted. I'm so glad you're embarrassed for me. I hope you feel good about yourself, you big clever man, you. Anyway, you know what I meant. |
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johnnyenglishteacher2
Joined: 03 Dec 2010
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| English food is not bad its just bland, potatoe and meat sort of stuff. Although we do have exceedingly good cakes. |
English food was not traditionally that bland. It just became bland at a certain point in time because we had a MASSIVE urban working class and a small rural population a lot sooner than most other countries, and much traditional fare was lost because people couldn't cook for themselves that well when they were working 14 hours a day and shared a house with 3 other families.
I'm glad that people are starting to pay more attention to our own native cuisine these days, as well as being open-minded to other countries' food. What's especially good in terms of foreign restaurants is that people are starting to take Indian food seriously and the chefs have had to up their game in the last decade or so. It wasn't that long ago that every single Indian menu up and down the country was identical, but these days far more places have an extensive specials menu. |
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HELICIS
Joined: 15 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Korean food is not the worst in Asia. That award would have to go to the Philippines.
Korea has probably the worst seafood I've had in Asia, though. Spicy boiled rubber anyone? |
No, not the worst but very overspiced and boring, IMHO. I eat all the Korean food I can handle at work. The seafood IS bad, tho. |
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meangradin
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| IMHO, having been married to a Korean and living here for close to a decade, I think there is a lot of truth to the notion that many Westerners "live to eat, while many Koreans "eat to live." As much as I love Korean food, it is very repetitive - soup/rice/kimchi - for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I suspect that tied in to this is the "go-go" mentality, which I assume is why they love their side dishes - just make a few big batches, put them in cheap containers crammed in to the fridge, and you have a quick and mindless meal in minutes. Heck, if you eat out of the side dish containers, you don't even have to wash up. But if you really think about it, any one nation's food is dull if it is all you eat - Most of us prefer to vary the cuisines we eat, which is not really the Korean way. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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My father visited and said, "Let's go to a high end Korean restaurant for dinner." I couldn't think of any high-end Korean food. Back home I could think of fancy Italian or French, even a nice Lebanese place, but here everything is middle class (except maybe Cherries! ouch sticker shock!).
Oh and where's the nature. I see paintings of deers, bears, and tigers. Must of all been eaten. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| My father visited and said, "Let's go to a high end Korean restaurant for dinner |
I went to a high end Korean restaurant once and was a bit disappointed. The place, the decor, the waitresses' traditional outfits etc.. were all pretty smart but the food was a bit strange. Really over ornate in its presentation, tiny portions of everything, food cut into the shape of flowers etc... and arriving on ridiculously impractical plates or in weird little pots. All fluff and no substance. It was an interesting experience though. |
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