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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
This troll is beyond ridiculous. He's gone from promoting hitting students in the head to defending the rights of bosses who steal from their employees, to finding imperialist conspiracies behind celebrating Halloween, insulting everyone who disagrees with his absurd premises, to now starting a thread with no purpose other than to insult foreign teachers living in Korea.
Are the mods taking any action on this at all?
In the meantime, folks, don't feed the troll. |
Dude also justifies the dictatorship in North Korea. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Why are FTs afraid of the moral way of doing things? |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Not sure if you're a Korean Teacher posing here or not. |
calendar's already outed himself as David Thiessen, the guy who pens many of the nasty diatribes Korea Times publishes in its Thoughts of the Times section. But given his bad typing, bad grammar, poor command of the English language, and bad attitude about FTs, it wasn't exactly a secret who calendar is. |
That's scary, considering that guy actually seems to believe his own drivel. Calendar's stuff comes across as someone trying to parody AES. |
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tanklor1
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Because my workplaces here are afraid of doing the morally right thing... |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Post an inflammatory question and then not respond? You all have been trolled HARD! |
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isisaredead
Joined: 18 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Why are FTs afraid of the moral way of doing things? |
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| northway wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Not sure if you're a Korean Teacher posing here or not. |
calendar's already outed himself as David Thiessen, the guy who pens many of the nasty diatribes Korea Times publishes in its Thoughts of the Times section. But given his bad typing, bad grammar, poor command of the English language, and bad attitude about FTs, it wasn't exactly a secret who calendar is. |
That's scary, considering that guy actually seems to believe his own drivel. Calendar's stuff comes across as someone trying to parody AES. |
yuck. i just did a quick google of this thiessen character, and he's one nasty piece of work.
that's who calendar is? really? |
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zeppelin
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Why are FTs afraid of the moral way of doing things? |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Not sure if you're a Korean Teacher posing here or not. |
calendar's already outed himself as David Thiessen, the guy who pens many of the nasty diatribes Korea Times publishes in its Thoughts of the Times section. But given his bad typing, bad grammar, poor command of the English language, and bad attitude about FTs, it wasn't exactly a secret who calendar is. |
A quick google search of that name turned up some interesting information.
Seriously Calendar is not worth bothering with at all. Probably best we leave him to work through his issues alone rather than on a public forum.
But you do have to question why the mods have taken no action on any of this.
I guess the controversial posts generate traffic..... |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Post an inflammatory question and then not respond? You all have been trolled HARD! |
No, I have just been too busy today to get back to the forum
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| calendar's already outed himself as David Thiessen |
I have done no such thing. You all have assumed this. I report these posts to the mods for violation of the TOS.
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| Way to ignore Forum Guidelines, Mr. Moral. Obvious flamebait is obvious |
Not trying to ignore the guidelines. Just talking about certain behavior.
Next post. |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well let's start here:
1. Do you think giving your word is a moral act?
2. Do you think breaking your word is an immoral act?
3. Do you think signing a contract equals giving your word and is a moral act?
4. Do you think that breaking a contract is an immoral act?
5. Does someone else breaking their part of the contract allow you to do an immoral act and break the contract or not keep your word?
6. Where do you draw the line? |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I would prefer to read your adult like answers before you address the following:
I stand with signing a contract is giving your word and that you need to honor the contract regardless of whatothers do. That means that if you want to quit, you follow the contract and give proper notice. No disappearing in the middle of the night/weekend/right after being paid. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| calendar wrote: |
Well let's start here:
1. Do you think giving your word is a moral act?
2. Do you think breaking your word is an immoral act?
3. Do you think signing a contract equals giving your word and is a moral act?
4. Do you think that breaking a contract is an immoral act?
5. Does someone else breaking their part of the contract allow you to do an immoral act and break the contract or not keep your word?
6. Where do you draw the line? |
If this is the direction you're going in, this probably belongs in Off Topic.
Moreover, you've already made it clear in other threads that you're unwilling to say when you draw the line. That being the case, this thread is straight trollery.
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I would prefer to read your adult like answers before you address the following:
I stand with signing a contract is giving your word and that you need to honor the contract regardless of whatothers do. That means that if you want to quit, you follow the contract and give proper notice. No disappearing in the middle of the night/weekend/right after being paid. |
What if you're not being paid in the first place? |
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nathanrutledge
Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ladies and gentlemen -
If you notice at the top of the forum, Enrico the Mod posted a sticky about "Send us reports".
If you see something that obviously violates the TOS, click the red "!" to the upper right corner and report it. If you feel calendar is violating the TOS, hit the red "!" and report it and very quickly, the thread AND he will be gone.
Easy as pie.
Helping out the mods AND following the TOS IS the moral thing to do, after all. |
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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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So in judging the responses, you are afraid to even discuss the issue. It proves my point that you are unwilling to grant the Koreans the same rights you demand for yourselves.
The Korean employer can't win under your thinking because no matter which way they turn, you will find someting wrong and change the rules to benefit you. Isn't that right?
You are also saying that inspite of the agreed to terms (contract signings, visa regulations agreed to, etc.) You want to do what you want no matter what. Is that right or moral?
Then by trying to get this thread to go away that says a lot about you and provides reasons why I can never support your arguments. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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In another thread regarding sick days, you basically said that FTs should go to school even when they are sick, despite the agreements of the employment contract. This was more in line with norms dictated by 'Korean culture' (that you don't seem to understand as well as you think). So, if your principal says "you must come to work even if you are sick because Koreans do it this way", would you tell him he is being immoral?
I can't believe you are allowed to write for a newspaper. I wouldn't even let you write a shopping list. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I think a thread insulting the moral character of NETs as a group is at least deserving of a warning if not outright suspension. |
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Enrico Palazzo
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Joined: 11 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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There are many things wrong with this thread. There seems to be much too much overgeneralization of foreign teachers as if they are a unified group. There is also a using of real names. I understand who "Th****en" is. I am not interested in that part. Provoking flame wars, trolling, and generalizing Westerners as all Americans and focusing on anti-Americanism as the raison d'etre behind attacking all foreign instructors shows a certain kind of anti-pathy towards a whole group. That's problematic, narrow-minded.
Jang mal Kamsahamnida (Romanized for thank you very much).
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2. If the thread is flamebait, it will be locked or removed without notice. Individual flamebait may be deleted or edited at the moderators' descretion. Certain users who continue to post flamebait or engage in other questionable practices (such as trolling) may be subject to more serious sanctions.
Updated TOS from January 2010
Last edited by Enrico Palazzo on Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:24 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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