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travelnguy
Joined: 27 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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A foreign teacher here once (allegedly) ran over a Korean man's foot. He had to pay for his time in the hospital, lost work, as well as 5 million won for pain and suffering.
As a side note, the man never once received a cast and we later found out that he didn't even have a job.
I do not think that it's unreasonable to ask for more money. You are not trying to milk the guy. You should be compensated 100% for lost wages, 100% for medical expenses, 100% for the damage to your bike, and a couple of million for stress. It's impossible to be paid for possible problems in the future as you never know if or when a problem will arise.
Also, what affect does this have on your job? If you are at an Academy, is your job in jeopardy due to time off?
If you are at a public school, then you are losing sick days and possible getting strikes against you for the possibility of re-signing.
Good luck and I hope you have a speedy recovery. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Location: Not Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Couple things
1) People don't do lawyers here. Yes, you can get one. Yes, you can have one negotiate for you. But it's not that common.
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That said its still within your best interest to contact one. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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So far the advice has been good.
Stay in hospital for as long as it takes the driver to give you what you deserve. You should get 100% medical, 100% work pay, bikes replaced, and extra for your suffering.
My girlfriend got knocked down at a crossing and got seriously stiffed on the compensation. Do not make the same mistake. Her neck still gives her alot of pain and will only get worse the older she gets.
Does anyone know if it is best to contact the police if this kind of thing happens? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| travelnguy wrote: |
A foreign teacher here once (allegedly) ran over a Korean man's foot. He had to pay for his time in the hospital, lost work, as well as 5 million won for pain and suffering.
As a side note, the man never once received a cast and we later found out that he didn't even have a job. |
A Korean bud of mine had his foot run over by a bus. He missed months of work, and had obvious pain/suffering.
He had a lawyer and they fought for money.
In the end, he got a judgement VERY similar to the OP's offer. |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Location: Masan
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Also, what affect does this have on your job? If you are at an Academy, is your job in jeopardy due to time off? |
I am at a kindergarten, and my boss is certainly not happy about the situation. The hospital wants to keep me here for another week or two in order to watch for swelling/blood clots, but he's pretty determined to have me back at work (on the 4th floor w/ no elevator) Thursday at the latest. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
| travelnguy wrote: |
Also, what affect does this have on your job? If you are at an Academy, is your job in jeopardy due to time off? |
I am at a kindergarten, and my boss is certainly not happy about the situation. The hospital wants to keep me here for another week or two in order to watch for swelling/blood clots, but he's pretty determined to have me back at work (on the 4th floor w/ no elevator) Thursday at the latest. |
Your boss is being an ass. I know a guy who tripped and broke his knee. His boss was equally assey, and this guy was taking taxis to work every day while still in a wheelchair.
I'm all for manning up over colds and small injuries, but please do yourself a favor and listen to the doctors. If these things don't heal correctly they will bother you forever. |
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Munniko
Joined: 04 May 2011
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| kardisa wrote: |
| travelnguy wrote: |
Also, what affect does this have on your job? If you are at an Academy, is your job in jeopardy due to time off? |
I am at a kindergarten, and my boss is certainly not happy about the situation. The hospital wants to keep me here for another week or two in order to watch for swelling/blood clots, but he's pretty determined to have me back at work (on the 4th floor w/ no elevator) Thursday at the latest. |
I would definitely listen to the doctors in this situation because it is super awesome to man up and go to work when you can make it in, but just because your boss wants you in doesn't mean you should hobble to work up to the 4th floor, possibly making your injury worse or the doctors missing a possible clot. Maybe you could compromise with him and say you'll write out your lesson plans for your substitute? |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| kardisa wrote: |
| travelnguy wrote: |
Also, what affect does this have on your job? If you are at an Academy, is your job in jeopardy due to time off? |
I am at a kindergarten, and my boss is certainly not happy about the situation. The hospital wants to keep me here for another week or two in order to watch for swelling/blood clots, but he's pretty determined to have me back at work (on the 4th floor w/ no elevator) Thursday at the latest. |
Your boss is being an ass. I know a guy who tripped and broke his knee. His boss was equally assey, and this guy was taking taxis to work every day while still in a wheelchair.
I'm all for manning up over colds and small injuries, but please do yourself a favor and listen to the doctors. If these things don't heal correctly they will bother you forever. |
^This.
Your boss is being an ass. A good boss, even a hagwon boss, wouldn't do this. Look out for yourself. How do you know you won't have long term problems. It's a knee. If it really is a serious injury, don't screw it up for life just because some guy is being unreasonable. Don't bend so easily. Remember, if he doesn't care about your welfare at all, he's a scumbag. Do you want to bend over for a scumbag? If they want it covered they can cover the time, they just aren't doing it. And don't take the lowball offer. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| On a side note, if you're in the Seoul/Incheon area, do you two need anything brought to you? Books, toiletries, juice, food, etc? |
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pres82
Joined: 16 Oct 2011 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: lucky. |
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On the whole mate, consider yourself lucky. My friend was hit by a taxi Sat. night near Gangnam. The driver didn't stop. No one called for help. My friend is dead. I'm very surprised that this guy helped you to the hospital, and that you're getting ANYTHING out of the deal.
Best of luck to you. |
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nw25th
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: lucky. |
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On the whole mate, consider yourself lucky. My friend was hit by a taxi Sat. night near Gangnam. The driver didn't stop. No one called for help. My friend is dead. I'm very surprised that this guy helped you to the hospital, and that you're getting ANYTHING out of the deal.
Best of luck to you. |
bwah>>>??? |
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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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sent you a pm with my number if you want advice. i explained a little in pm.
Stay in hospital as long as you possibly can. Any tiny thing that you feel after the accident, however minute it is, complain about it. Do not agree to, or sign anything from insurance companies. never say "i'm fine" it's ok", etc.
regarding your job: there are laws that protect you. Your boss cannot fire you. You can sue him for that. Labor board is on your side in regards to that. He is peeved because his business will lose money, because he has to pay the substitute, and may have to pay for you (have to check that law). Your job is safe.
Regarding the insurance company, you were EXTREMELY lowballed, even for KOrea. Korea notoriously pays very low in compensation, but you can get much more (and should) than what you were first offered. The first offers to me from the insurance from the guy that hit me equalled out to medical bills + 500,000 won. The final thing i signed 4-5 months later was more than 3000% (not a typo) than that first offer. Insurance companies are crooks, which is why CEO's of the companies are often indicted in this country. They are great at bargaining and swindling.
Get healthier first, don't bother with insurance stuff until after you are out of the hospital (which you should stay in as long as possible). They will bug you, but keep saying you are not ready yet for it. Make them play on your terms and rules. Bottom line, they want to settle as quick as possible. The quicker they settle, the better bonuses they get.
Watch for any discoloration in the skin. Could be a sign of infection. Did you have surgery? |
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goesslry
Joined: 19 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:48 am Post subject: |
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also, this is important. alot of people here are saying to "not milk the guy".
Remember, you aren't "milking" the guy that hit you. He has insurance. They pay for everything, not him. Even the most basic insurance covers that. And yes, you should milk the insurance as much as possible. The amount they pay is low, and not even close to worth the future.
in the agreement, once you decide on an agreement/settlement, will have (or you should make sure it does) all future hospital bills pertaining to the injury, or as a side-effect of the injury, will be covered. Make sure this includes all rehabilitation (therapy, etc), as that is not standard here. Make sure everything, however small and trivial, is written into the settlement, as the settlement contract here is a joke. |
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Canonite
Joined: 01 Feb 2011
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: lucky. |
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| pres82 wrote: |
On the whole mate, consider yourself lucky. My friend was hit by a taxi Sat. night near Gangnam. The driver didn't stop. No one called for help. My friend is dead. I'm very surprised that this guy helped you to the hospital, and that you're getting ANYTHING out of the deal.
Best of luck to you. |
That's crazy, I'm sorry for your loss!!
In all fairness, the guy looked like he was going to make a run for it. I am the OP's friend who got hit with her...the driver just sat in the van, engine running, lights on, tinted windows up after we were hit and we were checking ourselves for injuries. We realized he was probably getting ready to make a run, so I opened his door and dragged him out of the van to make sure he does no such thing. |
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kardisa
Joined: 26 Jun 2009 Location: Masan
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for your advice.
It's been exactly a month since my accident and I'm heading to the insurance office today to accept their most recent offer. My knee is doing much better (I can walk, jog short distances and do bodyweight squats) and I see no reason to drag this out any longer than necessary. The final offer for me was 3 million won for the bike and missed work (2 days, after taking my available sick leave) and the full cost of my medical expenses. My friend, who experienced a shoulder/upper back sprain was offered 500,000 + 100% medical. He is still deciding whether or not to accept this offer.
Some things I have learned from this experience (and yes, most of this was stated by other posters):
* Stay in the hospital as long as you possibly can. I was about to lose my mind after 4 days, and decided to ignore this advice and go home. I have no doubt that this cost me extra money. My friend chose not to be admitted at all, and has a much much lower settlement offer as a result.
* Remember that you're not Korean and you won't be treated like one. Also, the insurance company will revise their offer given the time.
* Get a trusted friend to work as your personal ambassador/translator when dealing with the insurance company. My boss performed that role for me, and I think that's why I ended up with as much as I did. He is a hard ass and had no problem telling them that their previous offers were bullshit. |
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