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NZ teacher hosptialized, needs transplant
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travelnguy



Joined: 27 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the time he stopped, he wasn't told he needed a transplant.

The point of whether he had time or not to go back to NZ is inconsequential. He is in South Korea now. He is in bad shape. He needs a new liver. His employer is more than likely going to cut off his salary. He is a person. He deserves to be helped.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spoke with my wife, who was with Mick's wife today at the hospital. They will test Mick's brother in the morning to see if his liver is compatable.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no doctor but I do know hepatitis is more common than alcohol induced cirrhosis. Especially so here in Korea (yes, Korea has a problem with hepatitis).

Not to sure of the pile-on when none of us know the facts and there is a guy in need. Sorry I can't help with blood, but I wish him all the best. Please keep us posted.
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theevilgenius



Joined: 10 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ I-am-me....i drink in moderation, moderation is an imaginary place that exists wherever i am.

But seriously, could you tell us more about this guy, is he an alcoholic? If people raise enough money for him, is there a chance that he could hit the bottle again and five years down the line he's going to be in the same situation?

It sounds like a sad story and I would like to contribute to any fund for him.


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The Floating World



Joined: 01 Oct 2011
Location: Here

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly him to NZ where he can get it on the NHS?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have that blood type and would be willing to donate here in Seoul if it'd get to him.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not to sure of the pile-on when none of us know the facts and there is a guy in need.


It's not so much about him, but we all can learn from this guy. I had a good online friend in a similar situation die a couple years back and I was stunned to see that he died. Hearing a story like this should bring attention to our drinking habits regardless of the cause of his situation.
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jamesd



Joined: 15 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colorado wrote:
I just spoke with my wife, who was with Mick's wife today at the hospital. They will test Mick's brother in the morning to see if his liver is compatable.


I agree that we need more information about this guy before we can fully lend a hand to help him and his family.

I for one would love to help Mick who appears to be married and may have kid(s) since I am also a husband and a father.
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did he find out he was sick?

I agree, it is best for us to help someone in need without judging. This does give me a good reminder to appreciate my body and look after it.

Poor guy, my sympathies are with his friends and family.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a tough spot to be in!

I hope he makes it through ok and gets his transplant.
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declan74



Joined: 06 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colorado wrote:
I just spoke with my wife, who was with Mick's wife today at the hospital. They will test Mick's brother in the morning to see if his liver is compatable.



I don't understand this part.Is the brother going to give his own life to offer his brother his liver? Are we talking about kidneys?

I know that the liver is an extremely tough and reselient organ and you really need to be an extremely heavy drinker for at least 15-20 years to damage it to the point of needing a transplant.

Apparently, we can function fine with only 25% of our liver, so maybe the brother is willing to hack off a chunk to give to his dying brother?
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jamo82



Joined: 17 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick has been a good friend of mine for a number of yrs, and I can assure you that he does not drink excessively (not that I think it matters when deciding to help him) and I'm sure that he will not drink after the operation.

Please help him. He is a great guy. Lets try and keep this post about actually helping him rather than the morality of doing so.
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declan74



Joined: 06 Sep 2011

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamo82 wrote:
Mick has been a good friend of mine for a number of yrs, and I can assure you that he does not drink excessively (not that I think it matters when deciding to help him) and I'm sure that he will not drink after the operation.

Please help him. He is a great guy. Lets try and keep this post about actually helping him rather than the morality of doing so.



No one is talking about morality at all.

I'm all for helping people.I don't know the guy and I'm sure he is a fine bloke it's just that many people wouldn't be interested in helping someone who's brought on their problems with lifestyle choices.I'm not saying this is Mick's situation, rather speaking in very general terms.

Some posters are just trying to a get a clearer picture of the things and how the poor guy came to be in such a sad situation.

That said,some people who've never drank in their lives die from liver problems.Just as some non-smokers get lung cancer.

Keep us updated on Mick's situation.
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drydell



Joined: 01 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

terrible situation... hope your friend will come out of this all right..
seems especially unfair as he quit drinking for 6 months prior... (i saw a documentary where a previous heavy drinker was in an identical situation 10 years later after going alcohol-free)

Was he a long-term heavy drinker?.. how much, and for how long did he drink?...(i'm not passing judgement- he should be helped in whatever way possible)

I personally rarely binge drink socially but I do drink wine frequently at home and I'm becoming more wary of possible long-term health consequences...
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we know that someone in trouble needs our help to survive and we have the means to help them, are we under any obligation, as human beings, to do so? Perhaps not. And what about that little girl run over in China, shouldn�t she accept some responsibility for her fate.. I�m sure her mother warned her not to play in the street. It�s like natural selection, isn�t it? I�m sure none of us ever played in the street.
If you are reading these posts, you are aware of what�s going on. And you have the means to help. Are you going to walk on by?
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