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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| It is not far-fetched. Our school mixes our schedules to include content courses with our general freshman classes. I have taught presentation, job interview, writing, and a movie course, and business, among other things. I only really enjoyed job interview. |
Yes, we teach those courses at my uni too (I also teach TESOL), but are they 'content courses' in the sense the OP suggests? I think the OP is hoping to teach economics, rather than business English, or English for job interviews etc. |
Actually, it's not the same as your school.
Our president wants foreigners to co-teach Econ and Engineering courses with Korean teachers. They are not English courses. I declined, as it is not my area of interest. His dream is to offer all courses in English, and they have hired foreigners with specialties in different areas, as well as required some Korean profs to teach these in English. |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Think what you like, I didn't say I wasn't going to do a PhD in Korea, I might, I just told you what my university told me.
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| I asked them if I did a PhD in Korea would that work, they said not a chance you can work here with a PhD from Korea. |
People never get tired of telling me, or anybody else that'll listen, that with an education from a Korean university I'll never find a job in the West (and probably not even in Korea). Korean universities are simply too easy, they tell me, lacking the rigour and high standards of western tertiary education, and that, therefore, I'm wasting my time. Mostly I get this from English teachers with a Bachelors and a year or two of in-country experience;they mindlessly repeat the same old crap others have posted on Dave's before them - the West is best, Koreans can't do education. The irony of their comments is completely lost on them, which is either funny or sad, depending on which side of the educational tracks you're on.
With that out of the way, let me do your critical thinking for you. Where you did your PhD is only a small part of the equation when it comes to securing employment. Experience, research, conf presentations, pubs, ability to attract funding, network of colleagues and research associates, and your contributions to the field in general are more important. Your comment about a uni not hiring someone just because they have a degree from a Korean uni is bogus. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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There was a time when a Ph.d. from a Korean school was something of a joke. I am of the opinion that these days, it is not a cakewalk. If I were to stay in Korea forever, I probably would not mind getting a Ph.d. from a Korean school. If my plan were to move back home one day, I would probably consider a Korean Ph.d. if the area of study were realted to Korea, and my goal were to become an expert in it.
But hey, if a Korean Ph.d. is enough to get you the jobs here, and you plan on staying, then why the heck not? |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| It is not far-fetched. Our school mixes our schedules to include content courses with our general freshman classes. I have taught presentation, job interview, writing, and a movie course, and business, among other things. I only really enjoyed job interview. |
Yes, we teach those courses at my uni too (I also teach TESOL), but are they 'content courses' in the sense the OP suggests? I think the OP is hoping to teach economics, rather than business English, or English for job interviews etc. |
Actually, it's not the same as your school.
Our president wants foreigners to co-teach Econ and Engineering courses with Korean teachers. They are not English courses. I declined, as it is not my area of interest. His dream is to offer all courses in English, and they have hired foreigners with specialties in different areas, as well as required some Korean profs to teach these in English. |
Actually, it sounds very similar to our school. Some majors do require the Korean profs to teach some of the courses in English (Social Welfare) and others hire foreigners to teach core subjects (Public Administration, Theology, Music and Engineering). The theology department was the only one who hired non-PhDs to teach content courses, but they soon stopped that (I don't know why). The only 'core' subject that foreigners without PhDs teach at my uni these days are at the flight attendant school and in the graduate TESOL programme. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, nothing wrong with flight attendant classes! 
I think our president wants to be like the Japanese schools who offer entire programs in English. It also seems to have stalled somewhat here, as well. There was a big power struggle between the owner and president. People took sides and got fired if they chose the wrong side. |
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Malislamusrex
Joined: 01 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm taking over a few of these content courses next year and it's not flight attending .
| jinks wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| jinks wrote: |
| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| It is not far-fetched. Our school mixes our schedules to include content courses with our general freshman classes. I have taught presentation, job interview, writing, and a movie course, and business, among other things. I only really enjoyed job interview. |
Yes, we teach those courses at my uni too (I also teach TESOL), but are they 'content courses' in the sense the OP suggests? I think the OP is hoping to teach economics, rather than business English, or English for job interviews etc. |
Actually, it's not the same as your school.
Our president wants foreigners to co-teach Econ and Engineering courses with Korean teachers. They are not English courses. I declined, as it is not my area of interest. His dream is to offer all courses in English, and they have hired foreigners with specialties in different areas, as well as required some Korean profs to teach these in English. |
Actually, it sounds very similar to our school. Some majors do require the Korean profs to teach some of the courses in English (Social Welfare) and others hire foreigners to teach core subjects (Public Administration, Theology, Music and Engineering). The theology department was the only one who hired non-PhDs to teach content courses, but they soon stopped that (I don't know why). The only 'core' subject that foreigners without PhDs teach at my uni these days are at the flight attendant school and in the graduate TESOL programme. |
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