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Underwaterbob
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| Uncharted 3 is a Playstation exclusive, isn't it? |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Uncharted 3 is a Playstation exclusive, isn't it? |
oh, yes you are right, I just checked. that sucks.
do you think this game will eventually be released on PC in the next year?
or have they signed an exclusive contract with Sony?
ok, well I can't play that game, but I would like to play games like that. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I want to buy this case
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=58
but it only takes a MINI mother board.
is this ok? I really don't know what all the pci slots and stuff mean
I am currently reading up on it, but thought I would just throw a question out to you guys too , do I need a full card?
you know what I want to do with my pc,,
other wise I can get the R3 version of the case. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
I want to buy this case
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=58
but it only takes a MINI mother board.
is this ok? I really don't know what all the pci slots and stuff mean
I am currently reading up on it, but thought I would just throw a question out to you guys too , do I need a full card?
you know what I want to do with my pc,,
other wise I can get the R3 version of the case. |
I would never recommend buying a small-form PC case unless you absolutely and definitely need to have a small-form case......your graphic card and upgrading options will be severely limited. Plus cooling and noise will be more difficult to handle.
Spend 100-200,000 on a good quality mid-tower from a specialist case company like Lian-li, Coolermaster, Antec and you'll have hassle-free upgrading for years to come. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| fosterman wrote: |
I want to buy this case
http://fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=58
but it only takes a MINI mother board.
is this ok? I really don't know what all the pci slots and stuff mean
I am currently reading up on it, but thought I would just throw a question out to you guys too , do I need a full card?
you know what I want to do with my pc,,
other wise I can get the R3 version of the case. |
I would never recommend buying a small-form PC case unless you absolutely and definitely need to have a small-form case......your graphic card and upgrading options will be severely limited. Plus cooling and noise will be more difficult to handle.
Spend 100-200,000 on a good quality mid-tower from a specialist case company like Lian-li, Coolermaster, Antec and you'll have hassle-free upgrading for years to come. |
ok cool.. sounds good... I think I will go with the R3.
I need help with a mother board.
do I need 3.0 pci slot? or is 2.0 fine?
I like this mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131759
its only 2.0 pci.
or I could spend more money and get the p8z68 with the 3.0
but I don't want to pay for features I will never use.
I want to hook up at least 5 sata drives if I want too.
also want to connect a NAS to the system
play the latest games, only 1 graphics card
GREAT onboard Audio. but with the option to upgrade .
thanks..
and around 200bucks.
and regarding the RAM do I need 2200 support?
or will 1866 ddr3 be fine? |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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You don't need 3.0 PCIe slots......there aren't any graphics cards using that standard yet.
You can get any speed of RAM that you can afford, but it has often been shown in benchmarks tests that after 1333mhz, the RAM speed does not help FPS any further.
You only want a single GPU so you don't need to spend a lot on a mobo unless you're an overclocking enthusiast.
I'd buy a more mid-range mobo and Gskill 1600mhz RAM and then put the savings into the PSU or GPU.........hi-spec mobo's and RAM won't increase gaming performance unless you're deeply into OCing.
The graphics card is way and by far the thing to spend most on if you want to play intensive games. |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
ok cool.. sounds good... I think I will go with the R3.
I need help with a mother board.
do I need 3.0 pci slot? or is 2.0 fine?
I like this mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131759
its only 2.0 pci.
or I could spend more money and get the p8z68 with the 3.0
but I don't want to pay for features I will never use.
I want to hook up at least 5 sata drives if I want too.
also want to connect a NAS to the system
play the latest games, only 1 graphics card
GREAT onboard Audio. but with the option to upgrade .
thanks..
and around 200bucks.
and regarding the RAM do I need 2200 support?
or will 1866 ddr3 be fine? |
I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself.
First of all, DO NOT get a small form factor pc case. Mid size would be perfect for what you are planning on doing. I don't know the exact exchange rate, but you really don't need to spend over 100,000 won on a nice case. I would recommend this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
Second, before you even decide on your motherboard, you need to choose what CPU you want: Intel or AMD? Because each CPU utilizes a different chipset. The motherboard you posted has a LGA 1155 socket which means it is only compatible with Intel CPU's, like the i3's, i5's, i7's. You would want an AM3 Socket motherboard for AMD processors.
Third, if you already knew that and decided on the Intel CPU, I would recommend a cheaper motherboard. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
It's an LGA 1155 motherboard, supports PCI-E 3.0, supports 1600mhz DDR3 ram at stock clock speed (so no having to mess with overclocking), has 6 SATA ports (4x 3.0, 2x 6.0), and has rear USB 3.0 ports. Only downside is there are no USB 3.0 headers, but besides that it has everything you want and more for around $40 USD less.
And finally about the ram, no you do not need 2200 support, all you really want in a motherboard is that is supports 1600 at stock, so it doesn't say (O.C) next to it. You just gotta buy 1600mhz ram like the G.Skill Ripjaws and you're good to go. Don't bother overclocking the timings or the clock speeds, you wont see a noticeable difference.
Edit: By the way, it would be a good idea to post your entire build before you buy it so people can take a look at it and make sure everything looks good  |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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the reason I am I going with the 150.000won case SO FAR. is that it's the best one which looks the part. to me because the case will be standing up right in my living room, on the left side of my flat screen which is wall mounted, on the right side I have the standing up right sub woofer, so this case fits nicely in with my decor. to me that's important which thinking about saving 100bucks. as this case will be sitting right in my living room for the next 5 years.
I am still looking for a nice standing up right case..so.
I will go with a Intel PSU I like the 2500K i5
is this a good psu?
yes I will report back on my pre build |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I am having trouble choosing a graphics card
I want one which will play games on my 1080 50" samsung pdp with no problems , I want to play the lastest games today and the best games 2 years from now.
I want to stream movies, blu ray rips all to my 50" samsung
I also want the Gpu to be Quiet.
thank you..
price wise 200-300K
I like this case. what do you think?
http://www.icoda.co.kr/i_product/pro_view.html?it_num=191883&ref=enuri |
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| fosterman wrote: |
the reason I am I going with the 150.000won case SO FAR. is that it's the best one which looks the part. to me because the case will be standing up right in my living room, on the left side of my flat screen which is wall mounted, on the right side I have the standing up right sub woofer, so this case fits nicely in with my decor. to me that's important which thinking about saving 100bucks. as this case will be sitting right in my living room for the next 5 years.
I am still looking for a nice standing up right case..so.
I will go with a Intel PSU I like the 2500K i5
is this a good psu?
yes I will report back on my pre build |
I see, well I personally thought the Antec 300 was pretty badass looking, but if it doesn't quite go with your decor I could understand. The Thermaltake Armor A60 is also pretty nice. If you're still on the fence about the case you might like that one.
The i5 2500k is a CPU not PSU, PSU stands for Power Supply Unit. But yes the i5 2500k is definitely an awesome gaming CPU, I currently have one in my rig and it runs like a dream.
| fosterman wrote: |
I am having trouble choosing a graphics card
I want one which will play games on my 1080 50" samsung pdp with no problems , I want to play the lastest games today and the best games 2 years from now.
I want to stream movies, blu ray rips all to my 50" samsung
I also want the Gpu to be Quiet.
thank you..
price wise 200-300K
I like this case. what do you think?
http://www.icoda.co.kr/i_product/pro_view.html?it_num=191883&ref=enuri |
Well that link you provided is for a GPU, not case so I'm assuming that was a typo. That GPU is just Okay... You can do much better especially since you're on a 200-300K budget.
I would recommend ATI cards over Nvidia since you're main purpose is gaming and watching movies. ATI cards will give you more bang for your buck so to speak.
That being said, I would probably go with either a Radeon 6870, or a Radeon 6950. The 6950 will give you more power behind a single card and will most likely be able to last you easy through the next 2 years playing the newest games out, but I would still recommend the 6870 over it. The reason being is that the 6870 is a very nice card for the price. It is much cheaper than the single 6950 card, and if you ever feel you need more power in the next 2 years, you can always Crossfire it with another 6870 or 6850. Once crossfired, the 2 cards perform amazingly and will definitely last you the 5 year life of your PC. My current rig runs 1x 6870 and 1x 6850 and I am able to play everything out right now on Ultra settings. |
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fosterman
Joined: 16 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ibsen wrote: |
I would recommend ATI cards over Nvidia since you're main purpose is gaming and watching movies. ATI cards will give you more bang for your buck so to speak.
That being said, I would probably go with either a Radeon 6870, or a Radeon 6950. |
WOW, did I have typos or what.
PSU when I meant cpu and case instead of gpu..
just to let you know they were typos I am not that much of a noob LOL
ok, the 6870 Radeon is the same card which Eamo recommended.
do you have a specific model and make which will be right for me?
there are so many 6870's to chose from.
quiet is important .
also how much power do I need for this set up?
600w, 450w? again quiet is key. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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fosterman
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Ibsen
Joined: 09 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:41 am Post subject: |
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That motherboard is pretty darn nice, I would recommend it over the asrock extreme3 gen3, except it probably cost a little more. I recently built a rig for my friend with that exact mobo so I can attest to it's awesomeness. In the U.S. that mobo cost around $140 USD, so... 210,000 won seems a little high, but then again I don't know prices in South Korea so I'm not one to judge on price.
And I agree, Sapphire make solid cards. I would probably go with the card you posted in your link rather than the previous. The only real difference between the two is that the first, more expensive one, comes pre-overclocked to 930mhz core clock speed while the second one comes stock at 900mhz. With programs like MSI Afterburner, overclocking the cheaper card up to 930mhz is as easy as clicking a mouse.
And about the power supply, you definitely want an 80+ PSU... 500W would probably be fine for the rig you are building (aka a single GPU PC), but if I were you, I'd spring for a 600-650W PSU just in case you ever decide to upgrade to a dual GPU rig. IMO it's worth it to future proof it even if you don't ever get a second GPU. Having that extra wattage gives you some extra head room if you decide to add extra peripherals in the future. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: |
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The Sapphire cards with the Vapor-X coolers are supposed to be quieter than a one with a simple heatsink/fan cooler. You'd need to read a few reviews to be sure of that.......but the extra cost is down to the more sophisticated cooler.
I think you can make do with a much cheaper mobo unless you have a big budget and are willing to cough up for upmarket stuff......which is no bad thing!
My philosophy is to always build a PC that you can be proud of and take pleasure in........not just one that will scrape by.
Did you say your total budget?
1.2 mill is the desirable area......excluding monitor. |
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