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northway
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| thegadfly wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| There isnt anything I can't hack if I put my mind to it. I would come back for many reasons. If I'm gonna teach ESL in Asia I'm gonna save money, which you can't do in those other countries you are talking about. I plan on going back to grad school and you need money for that. I wish life was as simple as "starting your career" |
Except your last teaching gig in Korea?
Good luck to you and all, but dial back the hostility -- YOU were the quitter that quit, while creeper just pointed out that there was nothing different in the equation. You are just as strong as you were when you quit before, and the jobs are about as tough to deal with.... |
Especially considering that he offered the same hostility while at his last job asking us for advice. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| There isnt anything I can't hack if I put my mind to it. I would come back for many reasons. If I'm gonna teach ESL in Asia I'm gonna save money, which you can't do in those other countries you are talking about. I plan on going back to grad school and you need money for that. I wish life was as simple as "starting your career" |
Except your last teaching gig in Korea?
Good luck to you and all, but dial back the hostility -- YOU were the quitter that quit, while creeper just pointed out that there was nothing different in the equation. You are just as strong as you were when you quit before, and the jobs are about as tough to deal with.... |
You are missing the other equation to what I said. Which is no surprise. I didnt put any effort into trying / wanting to stay last time. ie The opposite of "putting my mind to it".
Yea I am just as strong as I was when I quit last time. Only difference is knowledge, perspective, experience, and desire. But, after your post I wouldnt expect you to understand and/or see the difference those things can make. Ill dial back the hostility when you dial back the ignorance, deal?  |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well hello OP
I read a few of your previous posts from your hagwon in Busan.
It seems that teaching and Korea aren't for you.
This seems to be a classic case of just doing something you don't like just for the money.
I recommend you choose another career and move on from your time in Korea.
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| There isnt anything I can't hack if I put my mind to it. I would come back for many reasons. If I'm gonna teach ESL in Asia I'm gonna save money, which you can't do in those other countries you are talking about. I plan on going back to grad school and you need money for that. I wish life was as simple as "starting your career" |
Except your last teaching gig in Korea?
Good luck to you and all, but dial back the hostility -- YOU were the quitter that quit, while creeper just pointed out that there was nothing different in the equation. You are just as strong as you were when you quit before, and the jobs are about as tough to deal with.... |
You are missing the other equation to what I said. Which is no surprise. I didnt put any effort into trying / wanting to stay last time. ie The opposite of "putting my mind to it".
Yea I am just as strong as I was when I quit last time. Only difference is knowledge, perspective, experience, and desire. But, after your post I wouldnt expect you to understand and/or see the difference those things can make. Ill dial back the hostility when you dial back the ignorance, deal? |
...and again, you make my point for me -- you admit that you are the same as you were last time, but this time will be different? You didn't put any effort into staying last time, and you won't put any effort into staying this time.
People who can, do. People who can't tell themselves that they could've, if they'd just applied themselves.
Creeper was offering helpful advice (seek out an easier place to teach/ try something other than teaching, since teaching is a tough gig).
How long did you last in your previous gig in Korea? Seriously -- I will use this information to predict how long you will stay on your second try...it will be eerily prescient, I tell you whut! |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
...and again, you make my point for me -- you admit that you are the same as you were last time, but this time will be different? You didn't put any effort into staying last time, and you won't put any effort into staying this time.
People who can, do. People who can't tell themselves that they could've, if they'd just applied themselves.
Creeper was offering helpful advice (seek out an easier place to teach/ try something other than teaching, since teaching is a tough gig).
How long did you last in your previous gig in Korea? Seriously -- I will use this information to predict how long you will stay on your second try...it will be eerily prescient, I tell you whut! |
If I followed your's and Creeper's advice I would have never graduated college lol SMH.
How can one be the same with perspective, knowledge and experience that they previously didnt have?
You are a bright one I see! lmao
btw why are you teaching esl when you can read/see the future?!? ie knowing what people will and wont do in the future?!?
Creeper didnt offer any advice I was looking for or needed. Therefore it certainly wasnt helpful. It might would be helpful if I was unsure about if I wanted to come back or if I could handle coming back. But unfortunately neither was the case. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Don't want to tell me? Ok -- if you lasted 7 months the first time, you will last 5 months this time -- basically, however long you stayed previously, you will burn out two months earlier this time. This is due to your pattern of escalating conflicts, like in this thread -- instead of remaining calm in the face of a perceived attack, you make it personal, and insult folks. Since you already have a chip on your shoulder from your previous bad experience, you'll be spoiling for a fight, which you will find rather sooner than you would otherwise, which will lead you to leaving in frustration....
Prove me wrong, and I will gladly buy you a beer/coffee/soda/whatever you drink socially and apologize. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
Don't want to tell me? Ok -- if you lasted 7 months the first time, you will last 5 months this time -- basically, however long you stayed previously, you will burn out two months earlier this time. This is due to your pattern of escalating conflicts, like in this thread -- instead of remaining calm in the face of a perceived attack, you make it personal, and insult folks. Since you already have a chip on your shoulder from your previous bad experience, you'll be spoiling for a fight, which you will find rather sooner than you would otherwise, which will lead you to leaving in frustration....
Prove me wrong, and I will gladly buy you a beer/coffee/soda/whatever you drink socially and apologize. |
Dont want to tell me how one can be the same with experience, perspective, and knowledge that they previously didnt have?
I didnt burn out from my short time in Korea. Had an opportunity arise back home that didnt pan out.
Just some advice. Next time try to stick to answering the OP topic and not insult them with ignorance in thinking you know that person and/or their situation and have a crystal ball telling them what will and wont happen. |
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thegadfly
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
...didnt offer any advice I was looking for or needed. Therefore it certainly wasnt helpful. |
Your words, in response to your advice
What happened to the gig that didn't pan out back home? Did you not set your mind to that one, either? But this time will be different, right?
An almanac is pretty good at predicting the weather, based on historical patterns...that was all I was saying.... |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
...didnt offer any advice I was looking for or needed. Therefore it certainly wasnt helpful. |
Your words, in response to your advice
What happened to the gig that didn't pan out back home? Did you not set your mind to that one, either? But this time will be different, right?
An almanac is pretty good at predicting the weather, based on historical patterns...that was all I was saying.... |
Like I said, try focusing on offering advice people are seeking and less ignorance of thinking / assuming you know that person and what they can or cant do. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
| ForeverWanderlust wrote: |
...didnt offer any advice I was looking for or needed. Therefore it certainly wasnt helpful. |
Your words, in response to your advice
What happened to the gig that didn't pan out back home? Did you not set your mind to that one, either? But this time will be different, right?
An almanac is pretty good at predicting the weather, based on historical patterns...that was all I was saying.... |
Like I said, try focusing on offering advice people are seeking and less ignorance of thinking / assuming you know that person and what they can or cant do. |
Advice was given to you in this thread. Some you disagreed with or chose to ignore. That does not make that advice irrelevant.
What you seem to want is SUPPORT and people telling you its all ok. That's not advice....
So for what its worth:
1- You ran on your other employer. If your visa was not cancelled it means you have to wait until it is cancelled or get it cancelled BEFORE you can be issued a new work visa.
2- Your previous employment WILL show up when you apply for a new visa because kimmi asks if you ever visited or stayed in Korea before and they check.
None of this prevents you from getting a new visa (if your old one is cancelled) if you can secure a job. All this unless you ran from your employer and left them holding significant bills you did not pay or if you trashed your accomodations and owe them damages. Barring this, go ahead and apply for a new job and best of luck.
Are you well suited to teach in Korea or even teach at all? That is not something we know but your previous thread(s) do provide some indications and if you return, odds are you will not magically have changed. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:41 am Post subject: |
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PatrickBusan,
I wasnt asking for the opinion on whether or not I should come back to Korea. I was asking SPECIFICALLY about the visa in regards to getting a new job and also dealing with the recruiters and schools. Any advice or opinions on the former is indeed IRRELEVANT.
Luckily some people did provide useful and helpful info and advice on this thread. I certainly dont want support and anyone telling me its ok, if I wanted that I wouldnt have asked specific question regarding returning to Korea and would have ask what do people think about me wanting to return or should I ect ect.
I guess now I need to find out if my visa was canceled or not. I presume I could call the Korean consulate and find out. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well then, call the Embassy/Consulate but they might not have the answer.
Better odds at getting what you want by calling kimmi directly as they will tell you if your previous visa was cancelled.
As for all the rest, well none of my business but you should realize that unless you changed your outlook, odds are you will not be any happier teaching in Korea this time around. This is no fault of Korea or of yours. It is just what appears to be a miss match. It would be unrealistic to expect that in the short time since you ran that things changed so dramatically for you. It is even surer that nothing has changed in Korea since then.
Still, best of luck to you. |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Appreciate the advice but my outlook had nothing to do with why I left.
Had an opportunity back in the states and left. That didnt pan out.
Was my time in Korea carefree and awesome. No. Was it that bad where I was miserable and not happy? No. But if I feel I have a better opportunity else where I'll take it.
There are things looking back that id do differently for sure and will do if I return.
Experience and first hand knowledge go A LONG WAY in almost any even-devour. |
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Kepler
Joined: 24 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| Wasn't the OP the one who posted about skipping out on his smart phone contract and leaving to teach in Colombia? I guess that didn't work out.... |
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ForeverWanderlust
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| Wasn't the OP the one who posted about skipping out on his smart phone contract and leaving to teach in Colombia? I guess that didn't work out.... |
Half is correct. I left to go to South Florida. South Florida didnt work out. Ill be in Colombia as soon as I get enough cash to fund 6 months of stay. |
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