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I'm 50. Am I too much of an old geezer to teach in Korea?
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giwizzef



Joined: 01 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the strictest sense, no. You are not too old. I met many older ESL teachers during my time in Korea, some of whom had not even moved there until after retiring from careers in their home countries. In many cases, they and their stories were some of the most interesting I encountered while there. That said, some hagwons do tend to lean toward younger applicants because younger applicants are perceived as still wet behind the ears and, thus, more "trainable" and potentially more likely to be in it for the long haul. Also, because age tends to be a big deal in Korea, I think there is a general belief that students will respond better to young, pretty teachers. "Perception" is the key word, however. The reality is that younger candidates are no more likely to adapt and stay at a school than older candidates because, although they might be young and trainable, they also tend to have less work experience prior to arriving in Korea and haven't built up the BS tolerance that anyone with a few--or twenty--years of experience behind them has. And anyone who has worked in Korea will tell you that you need a pretty high BS tolerance level. Also, teachers (not just younger ones) who stay in Korea tend to get "the grass is always greener" syndrome once they do chalk up a bit of experience and, in respect to the fact that it's Korea where hagwons and English teachers are both a dime a dozen, understandably so. Why stick around in a 2.1 mil job after you get a year or two of experience behind you when in most cases you can practically walk across the street and get 2.5 or 2.6 mil and some other newbie can be brought in to backfill your 2.1 mil job? I also found the whole belief about looks to be a myth. While students may make an initial assessment of you based on your age and appearance, your disposition ultimately matters a lot more to your students than your age or looks--or at least that was my personal experience.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

giwizzef wrote:
"Perception" is the key word, however.

While students may make an initial assessment of you based on your age and appearance, your disposition ultimately matters a lot more to your students than your age or looks--.


Exactly.

The initial problem however is they are often too unimaginative to entertain the concept that their perceptions might actually be wrong.

Its the getting your foot in the door that matters.

Its a bit like getting a g/f. Ask any woman if she wants a rich man or a poor man and of course they'll say rich man. its just a perception. In reality though perceptions become irrelevant once people actually meet eachother.
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giwizzef



Joined: 01 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The initial problem however is they are often too unimaginative to entertain the concept that their perceptions might actually be wrong.


Oh my goodness you are so right about "unimaginative!" God forbid you give them any task that does not involve the strict memorization of previously supplied data...full fledged meltdown!

However, when I left Korea at the end of my contract, several of my students wrote me letters about how when they first met me, they thought I was mean because I wasn't thin (I'm not exactly fat but I'm not exactly skinny either...I'm certainly overweight by Korean standards), but once they got to know me, they thought I was beautiful and nice and have a great smile. So I do know that they are capable of rethinking their initial opinions. It may not be an easy task, but they can be persuaded.
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Mike S.



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks y'all for all 17 replies!

Mike S. Very Happy
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, but considering I am a 'professor' just turned 30 and working with people who are 50-60+ I imagine an older guy would be in a stronger position with the qualifications.
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Ballerina2012



Joined: 17 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently was rejected by a recruiter and i think my age definitely had something to do with it. If you know recruiters who take "oldies" please pass it on.. I have a BS and will have a Master's in August still got rejected..Maybe I am just ugly..lol
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After you get your master's a uni job would be ideal. Unis are actually age conscious to the advantage of older folks.
You may not be able to get a top uni job right away and may have to cut your teeth at a hogwon for a year or so but I know unis who actually don't like to hire teachers who are too young (under 30 or 25).

Age, race, weight, looks, can play against you in the hiring process in Korea but its by no means a deal breaker.
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