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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:36 am Post subject: |
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No, it really is great. I got lucky. I do know 2 people who have had good hagwon experiences, but I also know dozens of others who have had mediocre to just plain horrible experiences, so I know that it's rare. I really do like it a lot more than I liked public school. That was a mediocre job. I miss the longer vacations, and covet my husband's university holiday time (5 months per year,) but at least I'm happy when I go to work. I was really nervous at first, but I'm glad that I went with my instinct, after meeting my boss. As for "keeping on top" of her, she's forgetful. Everything's always paid in full, though. If she kept saying "next week" and never paying, that would be one thing, but if I bring it up, it's paid within a day or two.
To the OP: When I was in PS, I loved when I was alone in my classroom. I was able to study, lesson plan, etc, without annoying coteachers micromanaging. Unfortunately, I had to share a classroom with a 50-something, unmarried witch of a woman for nearly 2 years. This woman brought her own spoon and cup to restaurants, so she was odd by Korean standards. Nobody got along with her. Then, when she left, one of my former coteachers, with whom I'd been very friendly and had gone to spas weekly for facials, became my head coteacher, and immediately changed into a c**t. Everyone noticed.
I didn't need that kind of work environment. I asked around, had a good friend refer me to a friend of his who owns a hagwon, and things just worked out.
On a side note, my massage was AWESOME. I think I've found my new place. I've been trying out a bunch of places for years, and this guy�wow. He's blind and speaks pretty decent English. If anyone's interested or looking for a really nice massage in Incheon, let me know, and I'll give you the number. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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haha, those were the days. Before my current job, I worked in a private hs and man it was great...they paid way too much for me and i taught "extra" classes, and they asked me if I wanted more. When I wanted to help them, they NEVER let me. I just bought too much off ebay and gained 30 pounds! I had 2 months vacation, no camps or anything...
Ill tell you, I loved it, but Im not sure Id want to do it again. I didnt find myself too productive, but Ive been in Korea a bit. If I had a family it would be better. I was recently offered a uni gig with like 5 months vacation, and while you guys would be high-5ing each other, my actual first thought was "oh my god, what will I do for 5 months?" haha. I get by with what I have at my current gig (wish I had maybe 1 more week vaca, but I make do).
yeah, it is all about the office vibes. In my term at the HS (1 and 1/2 years), we had two principals. One was a big jolly math teacher who I would have coffee with now and then and talk. He was very cordial. Then he went back to teaching, and we got a skinny vindictive little man who decided to cut me and computers within a month. He thought my class was ineffectual because some boys were sleeping in that back (it was a HS). Oh well. |
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sallymonster

Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Location: Seattle area
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| now NYC gal, i promise im not trolling or being inflammatory or anything but I have noticed many of your posts mention how awesome your hagwon is all the time...is it truly awesome or do you need to keep teling yourself that, im not being mean but I honestly have never met anyone who has enjoyed working at their hagwon compared to a PS - BUT this is just MY experience, I know there are people like yourself out there...just noone i know directly. You also mentioned in another thread you have to "keep on top of your owner" to make sure she pays your health and pension - that doesnt sound like a good company to me. |
I also work in an excellent hagwon (not the same one as NYCgal). I, too, used to work in public school, and the only thing I miss about it is the vacation time and down-time. I definitely DON'T miss the huge classes, disorganization, forced (though paid) overtime, and lack of support that were prevalent at my former workplace. My public school also tried to get out of paying return airfare even though I had finished my contract and was visiting my home country.
My hagwon always pay me on time and in full, and I have the national health insurance card. I work in the afternoon/evening for about 5-7 hours per day. I never work weekends or holidays, and my vacation is given as one full week in the winter and one full week in the summer (I don't have to take vacation one day here and there like some other schools require). I live in a much better location. My boss is very supportive, unlike the co-teachers I had in public school.
I guess what I'm saying is, good hagwons do exist, and so do bad public schools. Don't judge a school solely by whether it is public or hagwon, but look at each school individually.
OP, it sounds like your school is treating you well so far, and I think that's great. Good luck! |
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ironclad80
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: First day of work at public school... |
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Here I am, my first day.
Currently sitting at my desk in my classroom completely alone, on Dave's and Facebook, with no one around. When I go to my co-teacher to ask if I should do something, she looks at me like I'm crazy and then tells me to just stay in my classroom on the computer unless I get lonely and want company. I have my own desk and my own classroom. I don't have to be in a teacher's room. No one seems to care what I do. The vice principal said that I won't be teaching for another two weeks.
Am I seriously getting paid for this? Is this seriously what public school is like?
And did I seriously suffer through a hagwon when I could've been doing this all along?
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Yeah, it's really like that. I suffered in a hellish hagwon before working a PS. The teaching director was a witch to put it mildly. You'd get screamed at if you were caught on Facebook or doing anything that at least didn't look like it was work related.
As you can imagine, at first I was still kinda paranoid when I transferred to a PS. If I was surfing a site such as this I'd close the window quickly when my co-teacher walked by. It took me a few months to realize that they simply don't care, they do it too! Really laid-back atmosphere. My co-teachers read during break and occasionally fall asleep while doing so.
I'm actually looking forward to the new semester starting tomorrow so I have something to do! I've had just about NOTHING to do the entire winter break. I was so bored I cleaned the entire English office and English classroom for them! As you probably already know, NETs have to come year round, so there were some pretty loooong, lonely, boring days while the teachers enjoyed lengthy vacations.
The teachers even have it better because they have off on all those days I'm required to come in when it's just me and the janitor and they don't have to come in on Saturdays anymore.
So yeah, it's really like that... Enjoy it while you can. PS positions aren't going to be around forever. Looks like I'm getting laid off come May.... |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Try to be careful though. A growing number of Korean public school teachers are quitting all around the country. |
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goreality
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Call me crazy but I think the Korean Public School positions will be around for a long time. Some things may change but as for eliminating 100% of native English teachers, I doubt that is going to happen despite the strong beliefs in rumors and questionable sources. How many more NET apocalyptic D-days will pass before other people start seeing things my way?
Either way sit around and enjoy your free time. Don't complain when there is work to do, and make sure you get a good evaluation. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Yeah! I have to go to my school when there is nothing to do!
They are buying your time, not your effort. I guess it is better than what you have coming though, so yeah, enjoy. |
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purplemonkey
Joined: 27 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I just wanted to add my voice to others hear who said to use the time for preparation. Get your ducks in a row and be proactive to avoid falling into catch-up mode later on. There's a lot of stuff you can get the ball rolling on and it sends the right message about professionalism to your coteachers early on. Once you've got a reputation it's hard to change - so make it a good one early on and it'll help. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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At one of my public school gigs I had my own classroom, and had my office desk located in a very small teacher's office with jsut a couple other Korean English teachers.
On the days I didn't have class, I was allowed to just stay at home.
After lunch, or during breaks between classes, I would go into my classroom, lock the doors, turn off the lights, close the curtains, and take a nap. As soon as my last class finished at 4:20pm, I was out the door going home at 4:30.
It was pretty nice. |
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