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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| tardisrider wrote: |
I think this has been sort of noted above, but just to be clear: many foods that appear to be vegetarian are made with brine shrimp or other animal products (fish sauce, etc) as a seasoning. Almost all kimchi and many, many other side dishes are made this way.
Just because your favorite ajumma leaves the ham and egg off your kimbop, it doesn't mean that you're really getting a vegan product. FYI. |
Indeed. I'm sorry but if you don't eat any animal products whatsoever, you won't have a whole lot of options for dining out. Korea is just fine for people trying to just avoid eating meat, but when you do the vegan thing, you're severely limiting yourself... |
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sojusucks

Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I suppose if you knew enough Korean that you could ask for meat not to be included. But chances are it touched meat somewhere. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| 두부마을 (Tofu Village). The restaurant does serve meat products but the single serving items have no meat. Can't say for certain on the soup stock, but most everything else is vegetable or tofu (or tofu-based). |
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alljokingaside
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:58 am Post subject: |
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it'd behoove you to go peksy, temporarily. life is much easier than it'd be going vegetarian or vegan. but i suppose it's not really a choice, now is it, otherwise...
yeah, the base for most all soup is meat-based, land or sea. other food that could easily be envisioned and prepared wihout meat (eg curry) generally have bits of meat included in such a way as to preclude their inclusion into your diet, even if you don't mind picking it out. if you wanna go the vegetarian route, cook at home, eat at the kimbap places, or go to the loving hut. me, I went peksy while in Korea so. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0

Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| alljokingaside wrote: |
it'd behoove you to go peksy, temporarily. life is much easier than it'd be going vegetarian or vegan. but i suppose it's not really a choice, now is it, otherwise...
yeah, the base for most all soup is meat-based, land or sea. other food that could easily be envisioned and prepared wihout meat (eg curry) generally have bits of meat included in such a way as to preclude their inclusion into your diet, even if you don't mind picking it out. if you wanna go the vegetarian route, cook at home, eat at the kimbap places, or go to the loving hut. me, I went peksy while in Korea so. |
Yeah, I switched to pescatarianism after a lot of weight gain (more than I'd like to admit.) I've lost it all save for one annoying kg, though one kg isn't that much, and I can still fit into my size 0 or 2 jeans (American, so like a size 6 English,) depending on the brand.
It is easier. If you're vegetarian for the health benefits, just find low-mercury fish. If you do it for ethics, then it's going to be hard, as even most kimchi has some sort of seafood in it. My husband is not converting to pescatarianism, so I end up cooking a lot of his meals, and he eats a lot of cheese pizzas when out. Not the healthiest, so I try to pack a sandwich for him on whole-wheat, multi-grain bread most days, so he isn't tempted.
I wish I'd known about iherb.com my first year. I certainly wouldn't have allowed myself to get fat eating mostly rice and noodles! Live and learn. Now I can order beans and other high-fiber stuff, and not have to travel into Seoul to get it. |
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Sister Ray
Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Location: Fukuoka
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: |
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I find it quite easy maintaining a vegetarian diet in Seoul, perhaps less so in the rest of Korea.
Almost never eat Korean food except at Loving Hut. Usually cook for myself, otherwise Indian, Thai, Mexican... basically any non Korean/Japanese/Chinese restaurant is pretty obliging to accommodate vegetarian diets. |
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tardisrider

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
| I suppose if you knew enough Korean that you could ask for meat not to be included. |
This is true, but those concerned should know that it's more complicated than just learning a simple phrase or two. Unless you're really able to explain what you want, it's still likely that you'll find animal products in many dishes. Here's an example that might seem strange, but it illustrates what I'm talking about: I've known people who have gotten ham in kimbop after asking for no meat (고기)--some Korean speakers don't think of ham as "meat" since it doesn't have "고기" in the name.
The strict vegetarians I've known have had a rough time of it. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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| Modernist wrote: |
As to 'organic' stuff that's also challenging. I don't think there's a uniform labeling thing like USA Organic or whatever for packaged foods |
Wrong.
The organic symbol looks like this:
http://www.veganurbanite.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Labeling-System.gif
Lotte has an entire section devoted to only organic products. The prices are significantly higher though. I bought a canister of sesame seeds for $7 and the organic version was $13. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Look on Facebook for the "Seoul Veggie Club" for good information and events. |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Being a vegetarian in South Korea is quite easy if you aren't offended by the sight and smell of meat. If you want to avoid seeing or smelling meat completely, it's near impossible to live in South Korea.
It's easier if you go out with friends and you get to pick the location. For example, if you go to a good ssam bap restaurant, your friends can eat the meat and you can limit yourself to all the veggies and rice. There are also many sanche (mountain vegetable) set meals at specialty restaurants, though you'd probably have to go towards a popular mountain to find those types of establishments.
If you're cooking for yourself at home, there are plenty of veggies available in the markets, although perhaps not the exact variety you are used to at home. I'm not a vegetarian, but I do go meatless at least one day per week, and it's easy enough.
To avoid Koreans labelling you as 'a picky eater', you might consider a little white lie of 'I have a meat intolerance - it's a medical thing'. Perhaps compare it to being lactose intolerant.
In general, you might suffer social isolation for having a particular diet need, in much the same way that teetotalers find themselves outside of some social in-circles. I'm not saying that this is the way it should be, but simply that it's the way it tends to be. |
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hallazgo
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drydell
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cat_herder
Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Good to know. New to this forum, and have been vegan for 6 years, vegetarian for longer.
One thing that people have touched on, and that consequently, I am now worrying about, is the social consequeces of vegetarianism. I'm in the process of filling out my EPIK application and noticed that one of the "heath self-assessment" questions is whether you are vegan or vegetarian--as if that could be some kind of health liability (it's on the list just above the question about whether or not you have a physical disability).
Should I just own it, and check yes? Or is this one of those times, similar to like the depression question, which I believe people seem to recommend lying about? I can see stretching the truth and then having it come up later and be even more awkward. It makes me wonder how they react to people who make dietary choices for similar ethical or religious reasons (e.g., keep kosher, only eat halal meat)? |
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sojusucks

Joined: 31 May 2008
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| cat_herder wrote: |
Good to know. New to this forum, and have been vegan for 6 years, vegetarian for longer.
One thing that people have touched on, and that consequently, I am now worrying about, is the social consequeces of vegetarianism. I'm in the process of filling out my EPIK application and noticed that one of the "heath self-assessment" questions is whether you are vegan or vegetarian--as if that could be some kind of health liability (it's on the list just above the question about whether or not you have a physical disability).
Should I just own it, and check yes? Or is this one of those times, similar to like the depression question, which I believe people seem to recommend lying about? I can see stretching the truth and then having it come up later and be even more awkward. It makes me wonder how they react to people who make dietary choices for similar ethical or religious reasons (e.g., keep kosher, only eat halal meat)? |
The EPIK question is probably related to Korean school lunches. If you can't eat it then there might be a problem.
I'm just guessing that some foreign teachers, who happened to be vegetarians, have made a big fuss about not being able
to eat the school lunches. They should have understood, up front, that Korean schools serve Korean food and only Korean food.
It is kinda funny, though, just picturing some "know-it-all" vegetarian lecturing Koreans about "healthy food" since Koreans
love to lecture foreigners about "healthy food." Good times, good times. |
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cat_herder
Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Location: United States
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| sojusucks wrote: |
| cat_herder wrote: |
Good to know. New to this forum, and have been vegan for 6 years, vegetarian for longer.
One thing that people have touched on, and that consequently, I am now worrying about, is the social consequeces of vegetarianism. I'm in the process of filling out my EPIK application and noticed that one of the "heath self-assessment" questions is whether you are vegan or vegetarian--as if that could be some kind of health liability (it's on the list just above the question about whether or not you have a physical disability).
Should I just own it, and check yes? Or is this one of those times, similar to like the depression question, which I believe people seem to recommend lying about? I can see stretching the truth and then having it come up later and be even more awkward. It makes me wonder how they react to people who make dietary choices for similar ethical or religious reasons (e.g., keep kosher, only eat halal meat)? |
The EPIK question is probably related to Korean school lunches. If you can't eat it then there might be a problem.
I'm just guessing that some foreign teachers, who happened to be vegetarians, have made a big fuss about not being able
to eat the school lunches. They should have understood, up front, that Korean schools serve Korean food and only Korean food.
It is kinda funny, though, just picturing some "know-it-all" vegetarian lecturing Koreans about "healthy food" since Koreans
love to lecture foreigners about "healthy food." Good times, good times. |
Okay. Funny, because I would never except to be able to eat vegetarian (let alone vegan) school cafeteria food (or at least in anyway resembling a balanced meal) in an American public school. I definitely don't mind being responsible for my own lunch. |
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