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Reading 1:15 as "fifteen past one" on spoken test
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Is it OK to read 1:15 as "fifteen past one"?
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegasus64128 wrote:
YTMND wrote:
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making it clear that we don't say '15 past' or '15 to'.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/eastmidlandstoday/tour/sound_gallery.shtml

"We will 'opt in' at a few minutes to 6 o'clock -- that means the transmission goes live to air."

Saying "quarter" might be an easier habitual act, but I see nothing wrong with using "15" instead. I don't see any sources which state we don't say it.

And how about this one, "15 minutes to liftoff".


http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A283155%2Ck%3ALanguage%20and%20culture&page=1


Good, you have referenced books. Now cite chapter and verse. Unless you work for Amazon, this isn't achieving the goal I thought you were after.

I am not going to buy all those books or one to find out there is zero evidence to show that "15 past (hour)" is wrong. As for "to", saying "quarter" is more a habitual act than the "law". Saying "It's a quarter to 7" is 7 syllables, but "It's 15 to 7" is 6 syllables. We often in speech simplify wording to the smaller number.

So, referencing your first ammo of choice, "Language and culture" I would not use that as an authority. Perhaps you have another source, one more limiting and written by someone with a narrow mindset.

Again, I request chapter and verse. I am not going to go out and buy a book so I can teach someone to speak illogically.
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YTMND



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eslhq.com/worksheets/preview_worksheet.php?worksheet_id=138002

Is eslhq wrong? Are you claiming that they chose an incorrect way of wording it as a "wrong" answer? I highly doubt it.

Here's another, http://www.scribd.com/doc/6722281/How-to-Tell-Time
and another, http://www.ego4u.com/en/cram-up/vocabulary/time
another, http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic717-435.html (this one is interesting, "The next story is adopted from metro.co.uk.", so it's not a British/American thing it seems)
another, http://www.englishleap.com/other-resources/telling-the-time
another, http://www.say-it-in-english.com/TellingTime.html
On this one, nona the brit, commented on Brits not using "after" but said nothing about "to" being wrong http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2306203

*** And where would we be without this gem? http://www.eslcafe.com/grammar/telling_time03.html

Quote:
In English, at 15 minutes before an
hour (2:45, 7:30, 10:45, etc.), we do
not say "15 minus (or less) the next hour":

wrong: 7:45 = *eight less 15 or *eight
minus 15

right: 7:45 = seven forty-five or
a quarter / fifteen (minutes) before /
until / 'til / to / of eight
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