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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just admit they are lousy, like much else in Korea, and that due to your Korean wife's utterly typical refusal or reluctance to live anywhere but here, you have no choice but to try to work with them anyway.


I find this utterly disgusting. You don't know me.

My wife and I have lived continuously in the UK for over 10 years and I lived in Korea for 3 years. My wife has given up her nationality and is now British. Just go back into that hole again, called your ass.

Shame you couldn't get a real job you muppet and ended up heading to Korea in search of money.

What a *beep*!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont argue with much of what was said here concerning a degree from a Korean university and its alleged uselessness.

I will say however, that no matter how crappy the university may be, your research is what will set you apart. Don't get me wrong, having a degree from a respected university opens doors, but it does not mean that the door is welded shut. For example..Jagdish Bhagwati ( a very well known economist and international trade scholar) began his studies at some unknown school in Mumbai..but it was his research and dedication to study that landed him at Cambridge university doing a second BA and on to much higher endeavors. Naturally this is BA level, but my point is that even at a university like Cambridge, his "no-name" university degree was not a reflection of his potential.

In short...if you are willing to put in mass hours of research and can put out publications that improve the field, a degree from a Korean university wont make much of a difference. It will be noticed, but it is your work that will validate you and the degree..not the school name
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coralreefer_1 wrote:
I wont argue with much of what was said here concerning a degree from a Korean university and its alleged uselessness.

I will say however, that no matter how crappy the university may be, your research is what will set you apart. Don't get me wrong, having a degree from a respected university opens doors, but it does not mean that the door is welded shut. For example..Jagdish Bhagwati ( a very well known economist and international trade scholar) began his studies at some unknown school in Mumbai..but it was his research and dedication to study that landed him at Cambridge university doing a second BA and on to much higher endeavors. Naturally this is BA level, but my point is that even at a university like Cambridge, his "no-name" university degree was not a reflection of his potential.

In short...if you are willing to put in mass hours of research and can put out publications that improve the field, a degree from a Korean university wont make much of a difference. It will be noticed, but it is your work that will validate you and the degree..not the school name


You Are Right that your work and publications are more important. But a university is supposed to provide you the resources, guidance etc. What Korean Universities lack. Korean Professors are plain Clowns (Could not find a more respectable word) and academic environment is outdated. So, chances are few that with this level of low caliber input, you could produce a higher output.

Regarding Jagdish Bhagwati, He did 1 BA from Mumbia but he had to repeat whole BA from Cambridge. In other word, his Mumbai BA was not considered and he had to do the whole again. Similarly, many Korean Professors did their PhD from SKY and than realized that it worth toilet paper. They went to US and did another PhD. Korean PhD was useful only in a sense that it helped in getting admision to a US PhD. Nothing more than this. That you can also do but wasting 8-10 years to obrain 2 PhD, 1 worthless Korean PhD just to obtain an admission into another better PhD is hilarious but many Koreans do it.

A Bettr Idea is to have an MS from SKY, that really worth it. No Doubt. And than convincing your wife to give you 4 more years for a PhD from US. PhD in US is also free with good stipends.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find this utterly disgusting. You don't know me.

My wife and I have lived continuously in the UK for over 10 years and I lived in Korea for 3 years. My wife has given up her nationality and is now British. Just go back into that hole again, called your ass.

Shame you couldn't get a real job you muppet and ended up heading to Korea in search of money.

What a *beep*!

Huh. Name-calling. Really? Wanted to elevate the tone, did you? Oh well, now I can add 'muppet' to the list of rather odd insults I've collected on the Internet.

You didn't really rebut anything I said. She may have been willing to live abroad for a while, but when the chips are down she wants to be in Korea. Like all Koreans. That's why you're looking to come back, isn't it? I don't think it ccould be the education system, as this thread rather demonstrates. Or the beautiful landscapes with such affordable, spacious housing. Or the charming, liveable cities. Is the UK Korean food not up to, uh, par? Perhaps she needs to make sure any children produced are sufficiently Korean? OR, perhaps you or her or both of you 'couldn't find a real job...and ended up heading to Korea in search of money'?

Face facts. Face reality. When you marry a Korean you are achored to Korea forever or until divorce, one way or the other. Anywhere else you go is just an asterisk until the spouse can get back to Korea, and they will NEVER be truly happy elsewhere. They may tolerate it, they may pretend to be fine with it, but it's all lies and delusions. The only place they want to be is Korea, with Koreans. You're kidding yourself otherwise.

On topic to this thread, hey, get the Korean so-called PhD if you think it will help your future. Just don't expect it to be worth a damn thing. Like most of the things Korea produces that don't come from Hyundai, LG or Samsung.
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coralreefer_1



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomanshaheer wrote:
coralreefer_1 wrote:
I wont argue with much of what was said here concerning a degree from a Korean university and its alleged uselessness.

I will say however, that no matter how crappy the university may be, your research is what will set you apart. Don't get me wrong, having a degree from a respected university opens doors, but it does not mean that the door is welded shut. For example..Jagdish Bhagwati ( a very well known economist and international trade scholar) began his studies at some unknown school in Mumbai..but it was his research and dedication to study that landed him at Cambridge university doing a second BA and on to much higher endeavors. Naturally this is BA level, but my point is that even at a university like Cambridge, his "no-name" university degree was not a reflection of his potential.

In short...if you are willing to put in mass hours of research and can put out publications that improve the field, a degree from a Korean university wont make much of a difference. It will be noticed, but it is your work that will validate you and the degree..not the school name


You Are Right that your work and publications are more important. But a university is supposed to provide you the resources, guidance etc. What Korean Universities lack. Korean Professors are plain Clowns (Could not find a more respectable word) and academic environment is outdated. So, chances are few that with this level of low caliber input, you could produce a higher output.

Regarding Jagdish Bhagwati, He did 1 BA from Mumbia but he had to repeat whole BA from Cambridge. In other word, his Mumbai BA was not considered and he had to do the whole again. Similarly, many Korean Professors did their PhD from SKY and than realized that it worth toilet paper. They went to US and did another PhD. Korean PhD was useful only in a sense that it helped in getting admision to a US PhD. Nothing more than this. That you can also do but wasting 8-10 years to obrain 2 PhD, 1 worthless Korean PhD just to obtain an admission into another better PhD is hilarious but many Koreans do it.

A Bettr Idea is to have an MS from SKY, that really worth it. No Doubt. And than convincing your wife to give you 4 more years for a PhD from US. PhD in US is also free with good stipends.



Regarding Bhagwati, I wont make such a blanket statement as to say he "had" to do a second BA. My point was that even though he came from some unknown school in Mumbai, he was considered brilliant enough to be accepted to Cambridge (not exactly an easy feat) We all know Cambridge is a great school, but there are plenty of graduates from Cambridge/Harvard/insert school here) who leave there and dont do much, and I like to believe that while quality of education is important, some folks are destined for greater things and will accomplish them regardless of where they study.

Can the OP do such research and overcome the deficiencies you point out in the Korean PhD environment while at the same time working, raising a family..etc? Who knows. Although as you mention a candidates degree will likely be looked more favorably upon if it were from the US, i choose to not slam the door on the OP's idea. It should be pointed out that as we know many Korean professors did their degrees in the US, but it should be noted that many of those professors did so decades ago when S. Korea was a much different country, and in fact I have heard from several Korean professors that one of the main reasons many went to study abroad was partly because of quality differences, but in many cases the deciding factor was "English"


As a side note and just out of sheer curiosity, people in this thread and others regarding studying in Korea pretty much slam the idea and usefulness of pursuing some various degree in Korea. I cant help but wonder if these people have direct experience with this. I mean I'd like to know who among us are Human Resource officers who have sat in front of an applicant and chose to reject them specifically because of their Korean degree, or those who applied for this or than and were told DIRECTLY that they were rejected because of their Korean degree. I mean we all have suspicions, rumors, 2nd, 3,rd 4th hand stories...but I cant help but wonder if anyone has had personal experience, or are just parrot-talking what they have heard over the years. This is not to say such things are not true...just that I'd like to hear some firsthand accounts if any exist.
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Lolimahro



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, if you're interested in doing a Korean Studies-type PhD, I know that my Korean Professor in university (University of Minnesota) was doing his PhD on Korean linguistics through the University of Hawaii while working as a teaching assistant at the U of MN. Maybe U of HI might have some kind of distance-learning thing you could do for your PhD while doing your PhD research and working in Korea?

I believe it is even U of HI that publishes most Korean textbooks used by Korean learners in university in the U.S. but I could be wrong.

Also, I seem to remember now that the OP might be from the UK which I guess could render my suggestion irrelevant if OP doesn't want to go through a U.S. university. But it's just a thought, I guess. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coralreefer_1 wrote:
nomanshaheer wrote:
coralreefer_1 wrote:
I wont argue with much of what was said here concerning a degree from a Korean university and its alleged uselessness.

I will say however, that no matter how crappy the university may be, your research is what will set you apart. Don't get me wrong, having a degree from a respected university opens doors, but it does not mean that the door is welded shut. For example..Jagdish Bhagwati ( a very well known economist and international trade scholar) began his studies at some unknown school in Mumbai..but it was his research and dedication to study that landed him at Cambridge university doing a second BA and on to much higher endeavors. Naturally this is BA level, but my point is that even at a university like Cambridge, his "no-name" university degree was not a reflection of his potential.

In short...if you are willing to put in mass hours of research and can put out publications that improve the field, a degree from a Korean university wont make much of a difference. It will be noticed, but it is your work that will validate you and the degree..not the school name


You Are Right that your work and publications are more important. But a university is supposed to provide you the resources, guidance etc. What Korean Universities lack. Korean Professors are plain Clowns (Could not find a more respectable word) and academic environment is outdated. So, chances are few that with this level of low caliber input, you could produce a higher output.

Regarding Jagdish Bhagwati, He did 1 BA from Mumbia but he had to repeat whole BA from Cambridge. In other word, his Mumbai BA was not considered and he had to do the whole again. Similarly, many Korean Professors did their PhD from SKY and than realized that it worth toilet paper. They went to US and did another PhD. Korean PhD was useful only in a sense that it helped in getting admision to a US PhD. Nothing more than this. That you can also do but wasting 8-10 years to obrain 2 PhD, 1 worthless Korean PhD just to obtain an admission into another better PhD is hilarious but many Koreans do it.

A Bettr Idea is to have an MS from SKY, that really worth it. No Doubt. And than convincing your wife to give you 4 more years for a PhD from US. PhD in US is also free with good stipends.



Regarding Bhagwati, I wont make such a blanket statement as to say he "had" to do a second BA. My point was that even though he came from some unknown school in Mumbai, he was considered brilliant enough to be accepted to Cambridge (not exactly an easy feat) We all know Cambridge is a great school, but there are plenty of graduates from Cambridge/Harvard/insert school here) who leave there and dont do much, and I like to believe that while quality of education is important, some folks are destined for greater things and will accomplish them regardless of where they study.

Can the OP do such research and overcome the deficiencies you point out in the Korean PhD environment while at the same time working, raising a family..etc? Who knows. Although as you mention a candidates degree will likely be looked more favorably upon if it were from the US, i choose to not slam the door on the OP's idea. It should be pointed out that as we know many Korean professors did their degrees in the US, but it should be noted that many of those professors did so decades ago when S. Korea was a much different country, and in fact I have heard from several Korean professors that one of the main reasons many went to study abroad was partly because of quality differences, but in many cases the deciding factor was "English"


As a side note and just out of sheer curiosity, people in this thread and others regarding studying in Korea pretty much slam the idea and usefulness of pursuing some various degree in Korea. I cant help but wonder if these people have direct experience with this. I mean I'd like to know who among us are Human Resource officers who have sat in front of an applicant and chose to reject them specifically because of their Korean degree, or those who applied for this or than and were told DIRECTLY that they were rejected because of their Korean degree. I mean we all have suspicions, rumors, 2nd, 3,rd 4th hand stories...but I cant help but wonder if anyone has had personal experience, or are just parrot-talking what they have heard over the years. This is not to say such things are not true...just that I'd like to hear some firsthand accounts if any exist.


I am an MBA from Korean SKY and working in a top 10 Korean Chaebol. After having first hand experience of Korean Academia and Industry, I strongly recommend people to not study in Korea for Higher degrees. Undergrad is OK, In some Universities/Departments, Masters standards are also high. But Doctoral Studies are not to be pursued in Korea. even if you have no choice, try to create a choice and move out for 4 years to get a decent PhD. An MS from Korea is off course highly recommended and it opens the gate of great universities for PhD.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am an MBA from Korean SKY and working in a top 10 Korean Chaebol. After having first hand experience of Korean Academia and Industry, I strongly recommend people to not study in Korea for Higher degrees. Undergrad is OK, In some Universities/Departments, Masters standards are also high. But Doctoral Studies are not to be pursued in Korea. even if you have no choice, try to create a choice and move out for 4 years to get a decent PhD. An MS from Korea is off course highly recommended and it opens the gate of great universities for PhD.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find this utterly disgusting. You don't know me.

My wife and I have lived continuously in the UK for over 10 years and I lived in Korea for 3 years. My wife has given up her nationality and is now British. Just go back into that hole again, called your ass.

Shame you couldn't get a real job you muppet and ended up heading to Korea in search of money.

What a *beep*!

Huh. Name-calling. Really? Wanted to elevate the tone, did you? Oh well, now I can add 'muppet' to the list of rather odd insults I've collected on the Internet.

You didn't really rebut anything I said. She may have been willing to live abroad for a while, but when the chips are down she wants to be in Korea. Like all Koreans. That's why you're looking to come back, isn't it? I don't think it ccould be the education system, as this thread rather demonstrates. Or the beautiful landscapes with such affordable, spacious housing. Or the charming, liveable cities. Is the UK Korean food not up to, uh, par? Perhaps she needs to make sure any children produced are sufficiently Korean? OR, perhaps you or her or both of you 'couldn't find a real job...and ended up heading to Korea in search of money'?

Face facts. Face reality. When you marry a Korean you are achored to Korea forever or until divorce, one way or the other. Anywhere else you go is just an asterisk until the spouse can get back to Korea, and they will NEVER be truly happy elsewhere. They may tolerate it, they may pretend to be fine with it, but it's all lies and delusions. The only place they want to be is Korea, with Koreans. You're kidding yourself otherwise.

On topic to this thread, hey, get the Korean so-called PhD if you think it will help your future. Just don't expect it to be worth a damn thing. Like most of the things Korea produces that don't come from Hyundai, LG or Samsung.


Man what is your problem? You're being a complete ---- to someone who was asking a legitimate question.

Koreans aren't happy anywhere except Korea? That must be why my parents immigrated to the US in the 80's, became naturalized citizens and why they have a house and various investments in the US. Because they're ready to up and leave for Korea at any moment.

Hyundai, LG and Samsung make up a very sizable chunk of SK's GDP. Saying that anything not made by those companies is bad is like saying that any car made by a US car company that is not Ford, Chrysler or GM is bad. It's true, but trying to make a point by stating that is pretty unreasonable.
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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
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I find this utterly disgusting. You don't know me.

My wife and I have lived continuously in the UK for over 10 years and I lived in Korea for 3 years. My wife has given up her nationality and is now British. Just go back into that hole again, called your ass.

Shame you couldn't get a real job you muppet and ended up heading to Korea in search of money.

What a *beep*!

Huh. Name-calling. Really? Wanted to elevate the tone, did you? Oh well, now I can add 'muppet' to the list of rather odd insults I've collected on the Internet.

You didn't really rebut anything I said. She may have been willing to live abroad for a while, but when the chips are down she wants to be in Korea. Like all Koreans. That's why you're looking to come back, isn't it? I don't think it ccould be the education system, as this thread rather demonstrates. Or the beautiful landscapes with such affordable, spacious housing. Or the charming, liveable cities. Is the UK Korean food not up to, uh, par? Perhaps she needs to make sure any children produced are sufficiently Korean? OR, perhaps you or her or both of you 'couldn't find a real job...and ended up heading to Korea in search of money'?

Face facts. Face reality. When you marry a Korean you are achored to Korea forever or until divorce, one way or the other. Anywhere else you go is just an asterisk until the spouse can get back to Korea, and they will NEVER be truly happy elsewhere. They may tolerate it, they may pretend to be fine with it, but it's all lies and delusions. The only place they want to be is Korea, with Koreans. You're kidding yourself otherwise.

On topic to this thread, hey, get the Korean so-called PhD if you think it will help your future. Just don't expect it to be worth a damn thing. Like most of the things Korea produces that don't come from Hyundai, LG or Samsung.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you to all those constructive replies to my initial query as well as those people who decided to spend the time to PM me. It is fascinating how many foreigners are actually doing a PhD in Korea.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
Thank you to all those constructive replies to my initial query as well as those people who decided to spend the time to PM me. It is fascinating how many foreigners are actually doing a PhD in Korea.


Actually there are hundreds (if not thousands) of foreigners having phD in Korea. Just knowing how many foreigners is not enough. The caliber, past background (academic and professional) and country of origin is also important. Calibers are low, most of them have pathetic academic and almost no professional background, and an overwhelming majority comes from third world just to live in a better country (After all, Korea is better than third world countries).
If you like to disclose your area of interest, the subjects, any idea about thesis etc. I can precisely give my opinion
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, these days no one judges on a degree alone (unless they're from a top 30 university in said country); If you get a Ph.D. in Korea, then it means that you should make sure you have enough publications to back up what you're saying you know.

Second, if anything, the only thing that might be hampered by you getting a Ph.D. degree in Korea is that you'll invariably run into small-minded people who won't give you a chance for even an interview (unless it's for something related to Korea). However, if the job you're applying for has anything to do with Korea--they'll give you a chance--especially if you have the publications to boot.

Third, most of the people replying on Dave's are likely neither studying, pursuing a Ph.D. from Korea (or anywhere), nor working in HR at US (non-Korean) companies looking for people in fields related to Korea, i.e. they have no clue.

Fourth, some of the replies are pretty good and some are clearly influenced by people who have been here too long and also think too much like the natives when it comes to school rank. I think if you went back to the US and said I have a Ph.D. in one of the best schools in any country, people will at least respect your language skills (even if you can't speak a word of Korean or said country's tongue). And it will definitely get them interested.

Believe it or not, though people love to do the "Oh, US schools are better than Korean schools" here, it doesn't mean SO much elsewhere. Back in the US, if it's not an IVY League or a damn good university (and I'm talking top 30), then they see a Ph.D. just like that--a Ph.D. Having one from abroad could actually even work to your advantage. Most jobs aren't really looking for skills anyway; they're looking for people who are competent and likely a good member for their teams. Ph.D. just opens the doors to certain jobs that require PhDs. They just look at the diploma to see that it's legit (looking) and doesn't have like Distance or Extension weirdness on it. Most diploma's in Korea look pretty US-like and written in English. You're fine.

Besides didn't you see this???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/bill-maher-new-rule-liberty-university_n_1530400.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

We live in the real world...where education is not 80% of our lives. Korea (like some other places) is a bit different when it comes to the obsession with education and degrees. Apply to a good Korean school, study hard, and publish some papers. You'll be fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Modernist wrote:
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Just admit they are lousy, like much else in Korea, and that due to your Korean wife's utterly typical refusal or reluctance to live anywhere but here, you have no choice but to try to work with them anyway.


I find this utterly disgusting. You don't know me.

My wife and I have lived continuously in the UK for over 10 years and I lived in Korea for 3 years. My wife has given up her nationality and is now British. Just go back into that hole again, called your ass.

Shame you couldn't get a real job you muppet and ended up heading to Korea in search of money.

What a *beep*!


Muppet...hahahahahahaha.

Anyway, i have few buddies in the GSIS program and they seem to like it. Not sure it's better than getting an MA from any western country, though. But if nothing else doing a grad program here gives you a decent excuse to bum around and chase women for a few more years, and may give you a little more street cred with said dames.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rchristo10 wrote:
First, these days no one judges on a degree alone (unless they're from a top 30 university in said country); If you get a Ph.D. in Korea, then it means that you should make sure you have enough publications to back up what you're saying you know.

Second, if anything, the only thing that might be hampered by you getting a Ph.D. degree in Korea is that you'll invariably run into small-minded people who won't give you a chance for even an interview (unless it's for something related to Korea). However, if the job you're applying for has anything to do with Korea--they'll give you a chance--especially if you have the publications to boot.

Third, most of the people replying on Dave's are likely neither studying, pursuing a Ph.D. from Korea (or anywhere), nor working in HR at US (non-Korean) companies looking for people in fields related to Korea, i.e. they have no clue.

Fourth, some of the replies are pretty good and some are clearly influenced by people who have been here too long and also think too much like the natives when it comes to school rank. I think if you went back to the US and said I have a Ph.D. in one of the best schools in any country, people will at least respect your language skills (even if you can't speak a word of Korean or said country's tongue). And it will definitely get them interested.

Believe it or not, though people love to do the "Oh, US schools are better than Korean schools" here, it doesn't mean SO much elsewhere. Back in the US, if it's not an IVY League or a damn good university (and I'm talking top 30), then they see a Ph.D. just like that--a Ph.D. Having one from abroad could actually even work to your advantage. Most jobs aren't really looking for skills anyway; they're looking for people who are competent and likely a good member for their teams. Ph.D. just opens the doors to certain jobs that require PhDs. They just look at the diploma to see that it's legit (looking) and doesn't have like Distance or Extension weirdness on it. Most diploma's in Korea look pretty US-like and written in English. You're fine.

Besides didn't you see this???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/bill-maher-new-rule-liberty-university_n_1530400.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

We live in the real world...where education is not 80% of our lives. Korea (like some other places) is a bit different when it comes to the obsession with education and degrees. Apply to a good Korean school, study hard, and publish some papers. You'll be fine.


A Few Comments from My side

1) If you have good skills, aptitude etc, yes, name of school does not matter. However, This is very difficult to develop right skills while your mentors are not up to the mark and your class mates are pure loosers. That is the case in Korean Schools
2) Assume you are an extra ordinary person and even in Korean University, you become a great scholar. What you will do with mindset? SKY Universities just trash out resume of Non-US PhD. So, If you get a PhD from Korean school (4 years) you wont get a job in good Koean Universities like SKY etc. you will end up in small low paying universities where career is pathetic. Than, you need anothet 4-5 years in getting some recognized Publications. After having at least one good publicaytion in soem recognized journal, you can expect a job switch to SKY or any good foreign University. But But But on ine hand, it is hard struggle of 9 years, Second, there willl be abundance of Ivy League PhD scholars with publications and how you will compete them? Some one from a US PhD with 1 publication will be preferred to someone with a Korean PhD with 1 publication. However, if you make 2-3 publications, you can beat him. However, this goal is really dificult to achieve.
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