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snufalufagus
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| No, I mean wrong, like your head ... |
So that quote is inappropriate, but
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| ... and your denial of them, well, moronic |
isn't just as bad ? Just as disrespectful to call someone and/or their behavior moronic
In my opinion. |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| No, I mean wrong, like your head ... |
So that quote is inappropriate, but
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| ... and your denial of them, well, moronic |
isn't just as bad ? Just as disrespectful to call someone and/or their behavior moronic
In my opinion. |
Agreed, but sometimes I just can't help myself.  |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:47 am Post subject: |
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(The director at my last school used to try to help me cross the street. Seriously. This makes at least one of the other stereotypes correct, and your denial of them, well, moronic.)
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One over protective director doesn't make a stereotype. I find all of those except the language one to be wrong according to my own experience with Koreans here over the last four years. And I still maintain that those are your stereotypes, not those of Koreans. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Western men: Kun-Gochu
Korean men: An-Kun-Gochu
I don't have a clue what it means because I don't speak Korean, but I hear Korean women saying it all the time.
Judging by the giggles, though, I don't think it's a bad thing. |
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Poker-Guy
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: stereotypes |
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I said to her "Do you think people are so friendly to us because
a) We are not super tall like a lot of westerners
b) We are attractive
c) We smile a lot"
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You know, I've had this conversation with people a lot. I am not overweight, not overly tall, and i have dark hair. In short, I have some of the physical traits of your average Korean, without being Korean. I know I am generalizing, please do not berate me for this. I think these traits have made my life in Korea incredibly easy compared to some of my past coworkers.
Any comments? |
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royjones
Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Location: post count: 512
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| snufalufagus wrote: |
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| No, I mean wrong, like your head ... |
So that quote is inappropriate, but
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| ... and your denial of them, well, moronic |
isn't just as bad ? Just as disrespectful to call someone and/or their behavior moronic
In my opinion. |
wow.. true to your colors.. another very well educated post. |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Western men: Kun-Gochu
Korean men: An-Kun-Gochu
I don't have a clue what it means because I don't speak Korean, but I hear Korean women saying it all the time.
Judging by the giggles, though, I don't think it's a bad thing. |
I'm not good at Korean but Gochu (as in the chili pepper) is kind of slang for *beep*. 'An' is usually a negative type thing like 'anieyo', perhaps Kun means 'BIG', I've heard Korean and western girls say this about Korean mens bits, in them not being big.
I have no and dont want any experience of Korean men's bits. Whether they be big or small.
I cannot believe that pee-nus is bleeped!  |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: yes |
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| If you match the good stereotypes and contradict the others, you will do well here. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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I've tried to contradict the bad stereotypes.
The children can see that, but the adults can't.
When I speak Korean to the school receptionist, the students gather around and gaze at me in awe.
The Korean teachers go right on speaking to me in English.
Apparently, the children haven't lived in this country long enough to have the bad stereotypes indelibly ingrained in their minds.
"The good stereotypes"?
What are they?
Ilsan Man, please enlighten me. |
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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what I see as the Korean stereotype of foreigners:
little or no interest in learning the Korean language
little or no interest in learning about Korea or Korean culture
spends all the time with people who speak English
does not know anything except the English language
has no skills except speaking the English language
has a superficial mind and enjoys superficial conversation
never goes anywhere in town except to the bus terminal
never goes to any city except Seoul
too weak and dependent to catch a bus without help
too weak and dependent to catch a train without help
too weak and dependent to catch a subway train without help
too weak and dependent to order lunch without help
too weak and dependent to make a purchase without help
too weak and dependent to find books in the library without help
weak and dependent generally
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Oh... That is so true. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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I think I fit a western stereotype, the Korean version anyway, in the way I dress, conduct myself, teach, talk. I try to, it means making more money and being successful here.
I mean, some definitions are perhaps necessary for this debate, but if you're not willing to adapt your public image to make yourself more saleable (your inner self remaining intact), whilst at the same time staying cool about things, learning some of the language, then how can you possibly expect to be successful here?
It's your call completely, but being flexible really does bring in the bread. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: yes |
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I've tried to contradict the bad stereotypes.
The children can see that, but the adults can't.
When I speak Korean to the school receptionist, the students gather around and gaze at me in awe.
The Korean teachers go right on speaking to me in English.
Apparently, the children haven't lived in this country long enough to have the bad stereotypes indelibly ingrained in their minds.
"The good stereotypes"?
What are they?
Ilsan Man, please enlighten me. |
Well, I have had many friends say great things about Caandians, and also other nationalities, from their travel experiences. Particularily about Canadians, I heard they are very polite.
Maybe being gentle and soft spoken. Be willing to pay the bill more often than not. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: yes |
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| tomato wrote: |
I've tried to contradict the bad stereotypes.
The children can see that, but the adults can't.
When I speak Korean to the school receptionist, the students gather around and gaze at me in awe.
The Korean teachers go right on speaking to me in English.
Apparently, the children haven't lived in this country long enough to have the bad stereotypes indelibly ingrained in their minds.
"The good stereotypes"?
What are they?
Ilsan Man, please enlighten me. |
Well, I have had many friends say great things about Caandians, and also other nationalities, from their travel experiences. Particularily about Canadians, I heard they are very polite.
Maybe being gentle and soft spoken. Be willing to pay the bill more often than not. |
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