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[sck2012]

That being said, we all enjoy a bit of banter from time to time.

[viciousdinosaur]

If you want some candid advice, here it goes.

Forget about Korea and go somewhere else.

Clearly, you are not getting an E2 visa. And your idea about sneaking into the country on a student visa to work illegally is despicable. And if you don't plan on working illegally and just study, then it's a just plain dumb. Spend money to study at a university that ranks lower than any university in your home country?

That being said I think you are hiding important facts. Why center you out? Why so desperate to return to Korea? Why do you write like you are intoxicated?

[sck2012]

I must be drunk on the fumes of your nonsense, my apologies.

Of course my intention is not to sneak into a country on a student visa in order to find employment. If I wanted to work illegally in South Korea, I would simply return on a Tourist visa and do what many others are currently doing.

An E2 visa holds no worth for me. Even if it was offered, I would decline. The last thing I want to do is teach. I hate the profession and that is by no means a slight or an attack upon anyone who enjoys and has a great life because of it.

Believe it or not, a Masters degree where I come from is very expensive. I could do a Masters degree in Europe for a fraction of the price is costs to do one in my home country. The fact of the matter is, my aim to do a Masters in Asia rests upon getting a scholarship. Now I have friends in Korea, know somebody on the board of admissions at the University I hope to gain the scholarship from, and can actually speak Korean, as hard as that may be to believe.

I want to get a Masters. My aim is to work in Asia in non-teaching fashion. To top it off, I actually like South Korea as well! Can you believe it? Somebody around these forums who can actually stand the place.

So if I want to apply for a Masters scholarship, surely that is my business. I'm not asking to be questioned on my life story and I don't appreciate being judged. My questions were laid out in my first post. Simple as that really.

[coralreefer_1]

Probably best not to continue this fight any more.

I think you can clearly see those who have given constructive input, and those who haven't.

I myself have been here for 8 years on a student visa, doing multiple degrees.( getting the point system F-visa at the end of this semester) Some probably think I'm a loser, but they don't know that I am making connections with the business community here, while at the same time adding education and all the while making 3.2-3.7 million a month doing it only working 20 hours per week (with no prep/obligatory meetings..etc), not tied by the nuts to some job that controls my visa...etc etc. In short, this kind of makes me the resident "student" on this forum.

If you have further questions/inquiries, or otherwise have other thoughts you'd like to share and discuss, simply pm the folks who gave helpful replies and let this thread die. After what has been said here so far, few are likely to give you anything other than the meaningless banter mentioned previously.

[viciousdinosaur]

It doesn't surprise me that you speak Korean. You have to have some first language, because clearly English is not your native tongue. "Master's" doesn't have a capital "M". And it's in the possessive form. "University" also doesn't have a capital letter. Plus all the other common nouns you think have a capital letter. I mean, come on, "Tourist"? You think "tourist" has a capital letter.

I feel like someone pursuing a master's should at least know how to spell it.

No one from Canada or the US ends with "cheers" so you're either from jolly-old England or somewhere else in the commonwealth that isn't Canada. And it's my understanding that Australia, New Zealand, and England have programs that make studier there about the same price as studying here in Korea.

[viciousdinosaur]

@coral_reef Are you not entertained?!

[PatrickGHBusan]

OP,

You got your answer from ttom. No need to post further unless you actually enjoy the conflict and trading of insults with some of the posters in this thread.

As ttom said, your student visa will go through Immigration, as all visas do. You should be in the clear unless your situation meets one of the conditions outlined by Ttom. If they denied you your visa (student or other) then it means there is more to your story than "I pulled a midnight run for good reasons". That is not an attack on you, but rather a statement based on how you posted in here and on what you described has happened to you as you try to return.

Also, if you hate teaching and want nothing to do with that profession then why come to Korea on an E2 teaching visa in the first place? Did you just take a shot it would not be so bad and you could muddle through? I am sure you went through some rough waters then but consider it a learning experience.

[sck2012]

Pretty much Patrick. I have taught before, but Korea was my first attempt at formal classroom teaching. It was a learning experience and I wouldn't want to pursue it any further. That's not to say I hate the country though, on the contrary.

It's pretty clear in my mind why they wouldn't issue another E2. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's been explained to me and I've looked into it as much as possible. My error was not reporting my school. I put up with things for a sustained period of time and then just upped and left. I realize that this was not the best way to go about things. I left and the school lodged a complaint with immigration. All the while they heard nothing from me, until I tried to come back that is. I sat at the desk of a Korean immigration officer and he explained things. He said:

- He was sorry for my situation, but there was nothing "he" could do about the decision.
- He listened to my side of the story, but refused to pass on my documents of explanation, i.e: I wrote a comprehensive letter in Korean that described my side of events.
- In the beginning, he looked on the system and deliberated for a while. He spoke to my next potential employer and said, in his own words: "I would say you have less than a 40 percent chance of getting the visa."
- Upon rejection, he said that the decision maker could not grant the visa, mainly because my ex boss and recruiter had been so persistent in the issue. As I say, they essentially told immigration that I mistreated the children, trashed my apartment and left the school and the children without any reason. They told immigration that I arrived at the school intoxicated and that I took time off on a whim. Of course, none of this had been substantiated, how could it, none of it was actually true.

Everyone here tells me that I am wrong. They are telling me that something like that happening is impossible and I am neglecting certain pieces of information. That's fine. I am being told that this cannot happen, but I am in fact telling you, it does.

There are men working at immigration. Each application lands on the desk of one of these men. One of these men investigates the situation and talks to all parties involved. I say all parties, but by all parties I mean just the previous employer. They do not allow you to explain and they do not allow you to provide supporting evidence. At this point, he makes a personal decision as to whether issue the visa or not. So yes, immigration can indeed reject you based on what I am describing.

Thanks everyone for the constructive input.

[giraffe]

There are many holes in your story. I have a hard time understanding...
Don't take this as an attack or me pointing the finger at you and calling you a Liar but something just isn't sitting right with your story.

I dont understand that you wrote "An E2 visa holds no worth for me. Even if it was offered, I would decline. The last thing I want to do is teach. I hate the profession and that is by no means a slight or an attack upon anyone who enjoys and has a great life because of it. " YEt you came back to korea to apply for a new E2 visa in person at the immigration office but you're denied? Why apply for an E2 visa for a second time if you say you hate teaching and that you would decline the visa if it was offered to you ??? You obviously want/ wanted the E2 visa... I just dont understand your story... And then after being denied the visa i presume you went back to your home country to figure out how to get a Student visa through the embassy... THat's alot of money for flights...

Also , are you saying that your point of view towards the E2 changed after being denied and you decided that since you cant get one you will apply for a student visa to do a Masters??


Anyways just listen to TTompatz.. He answered all your questions accurately!.

[PatrickGHBusan]

Giraffe, I think the OP applied for a student visa and was denied. I do not think he applied for a new E2 which would be kind of dumb considering he stated he hated teaching and would decline a teaching visa!

Still, OP good luck to you and yes Immigration makes such decisions. It happens. However, immigration would need something serious to deny you another visa and not just phone calls from a former employer saying your are a bad person. Proof of some sort would be required.

[giraffe]

Patrick , read the Op's "situation" ( quoted below).... It clearly says that he breaks E2 prematurely then he leaves korea and then person tries to come back and " person will not be issued an other E2 visa" then he goes on talking about applying for a student visa.....

if he applied for the student visa and was denied he wouldnt have come here to ask questions about how a student visa is processed...... I just dont understand why he would apply for an E2 visa again if he already knew that he wouldn't accept an e2 if it was offered to him... his story isnt making any sense...

Not to mention one does not fly back to korea to apply for a student visa for a masters/ school he hasnt been accepted into yet... He would need confirmation letter from the school before applying for a student visa ... anwyays just doesnt make sense...

[PatrickGHBusan]

Well then, that says a lot!

[cronolegs]

I think this is some intelligent trolling.
Anyway

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