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CPJ



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
I've a better idea for you. You made the assertion, you back it up. A good way to back it up is to cite the actual law or policy involved. And since the hagweons and the public schools both have to follow the same rules for E-2 visas, it doesn't matter whether the employer is the POE or some hagweon.

By the way, do you care to explain this comment?

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If you worked at a public school, they probably didn't care. They were probably happy that you left.



If you run away from a public school, it is not really going to affect them. It's not as if you actually have your own classes and without you, the students go without a teacher. The Korean teachers have the classes and you come in once a week to do a lesson.

So even if you ran away. I doubt the principal cares very much and is not going to report you to the immigration office. In fact, he might be making some extra money if you're gone. And as it is through the BMOE, again, why are they going to fight you, when they have 100 people on the waiting list?

With a hagwon, if you leave then you are going to inconvenience them a lot. Maybe most won't bother with filing paperwork against you or even calling the immigration office but what are the chances that they will approve you getting a new job if they receive a phone call from the immigration office?

And why are you attacking me for? I'm just giving a heads up to anyone that is thinking about running out. Call the immigration office first and find out before doing anything. I could give a rats ass if someone does or does not follow my advice. Just posting some news from Busan.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said it's a new Immigration policy. Well, where's the policy? What exactly does it state? When was it promulgated? Look, local Immigration offices can't just make up their own policies that are different from the national policy, regulation, and law.

And you seriously don't see how the comment "They're probably glad you left" might be taken as an insult? Now that you've provided an explanation for it, yes, that might be the case. But, then, it might not be the case as the principal is still responsible to the BMOE and has to explain any problems at her school, such as someone who worked for the BMOE schools for six years bolting from her lousy school.
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ruunie641



Joined: 22 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks for the input everyone. So I've decided that I will only work for my current employer until the 6 month mark. After that I will hand in my two months notice as stated in my contract and try to smooth things over with my boss so I can see if I can get a LOR or keep my visa. I honestly doubt that my head director will give me a LOR to be honest, I work at an intense hagwon franchise (POLY SCHOOL) and I don't think I'll even get a good reference especially from my Head Teacher.

Does anyone know if I can contract immigration and talk to an official about my concerns about my visa being cancelled if I were to resign. In case I need to get new documents is it possible I can get my degree notarized and get a Canadian Criminal Background check here in Korea by any chance. Or is it possible I can get a D-10 visa if my E2 visa was to be cancelled by my boss?

Sorry for all the questions, its my first time in Korea and I have no idea how I can get out of this job and apply for another one here in Korea.
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CPJ



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you are going to work 8 month and possibly not get a release letter as well as missing out on your severance and airfare? And possible hassles with your new documents, etc.

I know Poly and the similar types of chains suck but why not work the extra 4 months?

Get your severance, get your airfare, and no trouble getting a new job.
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JustinC



Joined: 10 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPJ wrote:
So you are going to work 8 month and possibly not get a release letter as well as missing out on your severance and airfare? And possible hassles with your new documents, etc.

I know Poly and the similar types of chains suck but why not work the extra 4 months?

Get your severance, get your airfare, and no trouble getting a new job.


Some places suck so bad you have to get out.
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CPJ



Joined: 30 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 months!

You're at a Poly so you're making 2.6 or 2.8 million, right?

That means you are getting almost an extra 1 million a month for the last 4 months!

It's your call but I don't think I could walk away with 4 months to go. Especially if you think you won't be getting a release letter.
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ruunie641



Joined: 22 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, I've been at the job for about two months now. Things haven't gotten any better. Right now, I'm not even on a speaking basis with the vice director I was telling you about. I have no desire to work in a job environment where I am not respected nor accepted. I never imagined in a million years I would be the victim of office bullying which is what I'm going through being ridiculed and gossiped about behind my back by the same guy who hired me. I'm gonna leave at the six month mark so I won't have to owe my directors anything for the flight. As for the recruiters fee, I am prepared to pay for if it means I get my freedom and dignity back.

Working for Poly School can be a nightmare job, it really depends on the campus . My campus environment is stressful; school will work you like a mule, give you long hours to work with minimal prep and break time available The pay may be great ( 2.7 million) but its not worth the amount of anxiety,depression, and stress I receive on top of being ridiculed by my insecure vice director WHO I SERIOUSLY WANT TO BLAST ON HERE. As a warning to other ESL teachers, PLEASE AVOID POLY SCHOOL BY ALL MEANS ESPECIALLY IN NAMYANGJU.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: If it's that bad, I'd venture that the timing of your resignation very well may be a moot point. I wouldn't be surprised if shortly before you hit the six-month mark, your boss comes to you on payday and says that you're owed nothing because you're dismissed and the boss has taken out what you owe for the recruiter and the airfare; that'll be how the boss gets around the 30 days notice or 30 days pay requirement.

You say you've only been there two months and it's gotten that bad? I refer you to my posting of Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:14 pm and kardisa's posting of Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:33 pm. Pull a runner, go to another country, but first be very careful about the provisions of the contract you sign.
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ruunie641



Joined: 22 Apr 2012

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to pull a runner even though my job sucks I rather end things with my work on amicable terms ( even though I doubt it really). I want to continue to stay in Korea because I actually enjoy living here.

I'm just worried if I quit that I won't be employable anywhere because I'm sure that my boss won't give me a LOR and even if he did he'll most likely not give me a good reference if schools coming calling for him.

I have few questions about what options I have:

1.Is it possible I apply for a d-10 visa if I quit my job at the 6 month mark?

2. ICan I apply for a d-10 AFTER or BEFORE my visa is cancelled when I quit.

3. Do I need to get a new set of documents to get another job in Korea? Or can I just change back to a E2 if I get D-10 and new job?

4. Is it possible I can apply to other schools without having to get another CRC and Notarized Degree?

Sorry for bombarding this forum with so many questions it just that I have so many questions but I 've been unable to find direct answers on here or on the internet. I just REALLY want to know if I can get another job here without having to go through the hassle of getting new documents and visa.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face it, you're not going to be at that job at the 6-month mark. They're going to can you long before that. A reference letter from your current employer is a pipe-dream. Dismiss that idea.

Get yourself a new set of documents, do some research and job-hunting, flee the country on an over-night trip, then come back to the new job. Better yet, go work in another country. That contract you've signed will haunt you if the current boss knows you're still in country after you bail on him. How much do you think you'll like living in Korea when you get sued--sadly, legitimately--for the airfare and the recruiter's fees and probably for "damaging the business" when you don't have all that much money anyway?

Best bet: Get paid. Leave Korea. Teach somewhere else. There are plenty of countries to love teaching in.
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