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falco
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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| The government does not spend in productive ways. I merely redistributes money, usually to a negative effect. Personal spending, by contrast, is on the things that we actually want. |
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| I'm defending anyone who willfully avoids paying taxes. Tax avoidance is 100% admirable no matter the circumstances. |
Typical extremist psychobabble that could ONLY come from the mouth of an American. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| falco wrote: |
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| The government does not spend in productive ways. I merely redistributes money, usually to a negative effect. Personal spending, by contrast, is on the things that we actually want. |
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| I'm defending anyone who willfully avoids paying taxes. Tax avoidance is 100% admirable no matter the circumstances. |
Typical extremist psychobabble that could ONLY come from the mouth of an American. |
You have no clue or useful insight about anything. Your posts aren't worth the electricity it takes to transmit them to our screens. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Alright, if you're talking about infrastructure projects, then I concede the point... but only to a degree. The government is still far less effective at building the things that the market actually wants, that add value to the economy. Building a road or bridge to nowhere (i.e. pork barrel spending) is just a waste. This is why FDR failed utterly to bring the US out of the Depression in the '30s despite putting so many people to work digging ditches... |
...except that FDR did bring us out of the depression? |
False. FDR's policies were horribly ill-conceived and ineffectual and actually dragged the depression out for a decade. Go check the timeline.
The depression ended finally when he (being the fascist he was) took the country to war. The military industrial complex started humming, and the depression ended. How fortunate the war wasn't actually fought on our shores, so the war profiteers could make their profits without our cities being reduced to ashes and rubble.
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| Also, the market is not fair to people living in "nowhere" (I know, different meaning of nowhere than what you meant, but I'm confiscating the term for my own ends here). There are countless places in the United States where the post office goes that private companies like FedEx won't touch, because there is no customer base. My grandparents, living in a farm outside a town of 400 people, would not have a postal service if it weren't for government "inefficiency". Do you think the roads near their farm would ever get fixed? They live on a county road that was specifically built to provide automotive access to three individual farms. Three households is not enough to support a transportation industry. |
How is this "not fair"? Is it fair for people to be subsidized for choosing to live in remote locations?
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| "The market" may be efficient for growing an economy as a whole, if you view GDP as an organism whose well-being is more important than that of citizens. But it does a crap job of meeting the needs of people who have no buying power, or who have very unique needs (like roads to the middle of nowhere). |
Actually, it's the opposite of what you say. The market is by far the best way for citizens' everyday needs being met in a fair way. That is the whole function of the market. Supply and demand. People make money by serving the needs of others. The government has no such incentive (it just confiscates our wealth whether we like it or not). |
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Udo
Joined: 22 May 2011
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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This is no B.S. 08/07/2012 I was sleeping in my modest apartment in the Itaewon section of Seoul and got an "urgent" e-mail from my property manager from the owners association of my condo in Tempe, AZ .
They had broken through the security door, turned on the electric, and tried to steal my truck downstairs in the garage (battery was disconnected).
All of the electronics were gone (TV etc) coins and collectables.
All of them are black. They caught one of them trying to pawn my watch in Mesa, AZ.
They did at least $20,000 property damage to my home and $3,500 damage to my truck since they were too stupid to open the hood to steal the battery.
Thankfully insurance will cover some of this.
If you have a brain in your head stay away from section 8 housing.
I'm paying for my mistake. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:48 am Post subject: |
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All of them are black. They caught one of them trying to pawn my watch in Mesa, AZ...
If you have a brain in your head stay away from section 8 housing.
I'm paying for my mistake. |
Its just common sense not to live near any high crime area if you can. Crime however, is a function of economics not race. What do I do about the 700k white guys in prison when they come out and one of them moves back to my neighborhood? |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| The top and the bottom against the middle. |
What voice exactly do the bottom have in the government to get favorable treatment again? They have no lobbies, interest groups and don't vote in the same percentage as others.
The middle class have bought the lie the two parties give them. Especially the Republican party but the Dems are no saints either.
Its the rich and corporations that have the voice. We do the voting but they have the power.
Its not the poor and middle class that both Obama and Romney meet behiind closed doors to hear their concerns and get their money.
Nothing against the rich. I'd love to be rich. If you earn your money, great. Its the American way. But I also believe in fairness. Being rich or a big corporation shouldn't be a reason to special treatment that you don't need. |
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