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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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 Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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| ScribeAbroad wrote: |
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This is a good reason to just say no to Hagwon recruiters. Also don't accept a Hagwon job unless you are already in Korea with good savings actively looking for jobs with all your documents ready, and have multiple CBC's and Apostilled degree copies. |
Not to say that's not good advice, sounds good to me, just I was supposed to work for a public school. I should have mentioned that. |
I don't see what the doom and gloom is all about. I got a visa once and before the contract period the school played some games and we decided not to go through with it. I was at a previous school finishing up (school 1), and when I went to immigration with school 3, they treated it as if I never made arrangements with school 2.
No, it's not exactly the same, but it shows it's not entirely different either. Get another school (hagwon if you are in USA and did NOT pay for the airfare yet because public schools usually don't foot the bill initially for airfare). If you are in Korea or you already paid airfare and can't see a way to refund it, then you might as well go to Korea and meet with the schools.
See if they will give some of the airfare money and if you can simply transfer over or go the D-10 route (if immigration gets stubborn).
This last part about switching over is dependent on how successful you are. I have no personal experience besides what I mentioned, and I haven't seen anything concrete to tell me it won't work.
Even if a recruiter says it won't, it doesn't mean it can't be done. Some recruiters are too lazy to process paperwork differently than the normal routine.
What I hear about are problems where someone has applied for an ARC and then something bad happens while working at the school. |
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Scorpion
Joined: 15 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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OP, there was a situation like yours a few years back. EPIK had hired something like a hundred teachers. These teachers, like yourself, quit their job, moved out of their apartments, got their visas, said goodbye to their friends, and psychologically prepared themselves for a move to Korea. Two days beforte they were all to fly out they get an email saying the positions had been cancelled. No apology. Nothing. And these were Korean government-sponsored school jobs.
It's not just hagwons that will screw you over in Korea. 
But yeah, they are not the most conscientious or dependable employers on the planet. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:37 am Post subject: double posting |
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edited because of double posting
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:37 am Post subject: |
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Hopefully the days are coming sooner than we think when China will not only offer better pay (which is happening as we read this forum) but make the process of getting a teaching visa simpler.
Korea is due a nice karmic biyotchslap for all the nonsense that has happened to E-2ers, especially the scummy move that screwed over would be teachers with visas in their passport, the constant Kimmi rule changing, the failure of Korean Embassies over the world to keep up with the changes (yeah, it's really hard to do your job in a nice cosy Embassy or Consulate, isn't it?), the baiting and switching and downright barefaced lying of recruiters, etc.
Jobs teaching at digital media centres, businesses, companies, etc have long been denied to E-2ers who have the yrs of experience and cvs to do them well. Soon the F visa people will be the only ones offered half decent jobs where you can use your brain apart from some uni jobs.
I've seen increasing numbers of jobs now asking for gypos and F visa people. Leave Korea to these people and to the fresh grads who've never done anything related to English language work apart or even had a fulltime job. China beckons. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I should try this scam when I return home.  |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| earthquakez wrote: |
Hopefully the days are coming sooner than we think when China will not only offer better pay (which is happening as we read this forum) but make the process of getting a teaching visa simpler.
Korea is due a nice karmic biyotchslap for all the nonsense that has happened to E-2ers, especially the scummy move that screwed over would be teachers with visas in their passport, the constant Kimmi rule changing, the failure of Korean Embassies over the world to keep up with the changes (yeah, it's really hard to do your job in a nice cosy Embassy or Consulate, isn't it?), the baiting and switching and downright barefaced lying of recruiters, etc.
Jobs teaching at digital media centres, businesses, companies, etc have long been denied to E-2ers who have the yrs of experience and cvs to do them well. Soon the F visa people will be the only ones offered half decent jobs where you can use your brain apart from some uni jobs.
I've seen increasing numbers of jobs now asking for gypos and F visa people. Leave Korea to these people and to the fresh grads who've never done anything related to English language work apart or even had a fulltime job. China beckons. |
That might not be such a bad idea. Newbies reading this, go to China and skip Korea.... |
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cheolsu
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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I agree. Think what you want of people with no teaching qualifications and experience getting into EFL for a year or two, since so many of us got our start that way, but I wouldn't recommend Korea to such a person, I'd recommend China. Those people, by the way, include some of the most successful Westerners I know in Korea (a tenured professor, a chaebol lawyer, a senior manager at a public corporation, even a diplomat, though he taught in Japan). Some people make a career out of education and others get out of education once they get the right visa.
For those at the bottom of the ladder, without either qualifications or an F-series visa, however, I don't see how Korea is worth it given the quality of jobs here and the process of getting one of those jobs. China would be a better option. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Replaced two days before flying out |
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| ScribeAbroad wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
This is a good reason to just say no to Hagwon recruiters. Also don't accept a Hagwon job unless you are already in Korea with good savings actively looking for jobs with all your documents ready, and have multiple CBC's and Apostilled degree copies. |
Not to say that's not good advice, sounds good to me, just I was supposed to work for a public school. I should have mentioned that. |
This is a new twist to things in Korea. Public schools usually don't screw you. If I were you I would find another job in Korea as soon as you can. Once you are positioned there I would take the school district to court. I would definitely do this. Also do it for all the other public schools that hold to some kind of standards and public school NET's that are applying to public schools and presently teaching in public schools. |
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