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coratheexplorer
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Several people I and my family knew, and people in my immediate family, and a fair number from the community I grew up in and still call home. And I am sure no one that you knew or ever will. So. That's who. It's called living through history. The world did exist before Generation X and Y and Z were here, you know. |
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coratheexplorer
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| If I remember correctly you are a forum member who is of Korean descent. |
Didn't take long for that one to come out...
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| Maybe someday you will go somewhere and you will understand more what people like me mean when we make the comments that we do about South Korea |
First, who are you to presume that I don't 'understand' the kind of experience you are talking about?
You mean like back home, where I'd hear Asian-Americans constantly whine and moan about "Model Minority" this and negative media portrayal that and racist government policies and discrimination in the workplace?
My experience is that both basher NETs and Angry AAs (or Angry White Males or Angry Black Man)back home are remarkably alike in what they consider their bad experiences. The beat may change, but the song remains the same. |
I do wonder why you come here. What exactly do you expect to find here? I guess it must give you a chance to work out your own issues. And that's good. We all need a space like that. Or maybe you're just working on your written debate skills. If so, pat yourself on the back. Your time and efforts are paying off. |
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smithy
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| coratheexplorer wrote: |
| smithy wrote: |
| Who is this "we" |
It's called living through history. |
Interesting. I wonder if you expect black people to hate you the same way you expect Korean people to thank you. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| coratheexplorer wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
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| If I remember correctly you are a forum member who is of Korean descent. |
Didn't take long for that one to come out...
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| Maybe someday you will go somewhere and you will understand more what people like me mean when we make the comments that we do about South Korea |
First, who are you to presume that I don't 'understand' the kind of experience you are talking about?
You mean like back home, where I'd hear Asian-Americans constantly whine and moan about "Model Minority" this and negative media portrayal that and racist government policies and discrimination in the workplace?
My experience is that both basher NETs and Angry AAs (or Angry White Males or Angry Black Man)back home are remarkably alike in what they consider their bad experiences. The beat may change, but the song remains the same. |
I do wonder why you come here. What exactly do you expect to find here? I guess it must give you a chance to work out your own issues. And that's good. We all need a space like that. Or maybe you're just working on your written debate skills. If so, pat yourself on the back. Your time and efforts are paying off. |
What are you going on about?
Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
I'd guess 95% or (very likely) more of the westerners who come to Korea to teach (or who post on this board) are not of Korean descent. If he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case.
And one could similarly ask you, "WTF issue is it to you?" |
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Charlie Bourque
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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By "we", I assume you mean US forces. That's not really accurate. A lot of countries contributed:
Republic of Korea -- 590,911
Colombia -- 1,068
United States -- 302,483
Belgium -- 900
United Kingdom -- 14,198
South Africa -- 826
Canada -- 6,146
The Netherlands -- 819
Turkey -- 5,453
Luxembourg -- 44
Australia -- 2,282
Philippines -- 1,496
New Zealand -- 1,385
Thailand -- 1,204
Ethiopia -- 1,271
Greece -- 1,263
France -- 1,119 |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| coratheexplorer wrote: |
| smithy wrote: |
| Who is this "we" |
Several people I and my family knew, and people in my immediate family, and a fair number from the community I grew up in and still call home. And I am sure no one that you knew or ever will. So. That's who. It's called living through history. The world did exist before Generation X and Y and Z were here, you know. |
What, are you saying that I don't know people who fought in the Korean War? Or don't have relatives who did? I know people who fought in the Korean War for the Korean Army and I have relatives who fought for the U.S. Army.
IF your father commits a crime, do you stand in judgment alongside him? Likewise, do you take credit for his accomplishments?
The proper term is not "we" for you haven't lifted finger one. The proper term is they. You had nothing to do with the liberation of Korea or its development, so stop expecting credit and respect for it. Leave that for veterans.
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| do wonder why you come here. What exactly do you expect to find here? I guess it must give you a chance to work out your own issues. And that's good. We all need a space like that. |
I come on here because I am an ESL teacher in Korea and like to talk about various issues, and hear about things like restaurants and current events. Same as you.
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| f he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case. |
And of a caucasian family, whom I absolutely love.
Conflict of interest? Dave's has interests now? Am I to choose sides? Are we some kind of tribe? Are only my views conflicted, but not yours? Are people of Korean ethnicity's opinions on this board less valid? Are the only 'valid' Korean opinions those that agree with yours?
Would it okay for me to ever bring up your ethnicity or race and declare your opinions and motives invalid because of it?
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| Or maybe you're just working on your written debate skills. |
I do enjoy a good argument, and it is nice to keep the ol writing skills a little sharp. But contrary to opinion, it doesn't take me that long to punch these out. I am a very quick writer. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
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| Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
I'd guess 95% or (very likely) more of the westerners who come to Korea to teach (or who post on this board) are not of Korean descent. If he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case.
And one could similarly ask you, "WTF issue is it to you?" |
I've got just as many posts as him, yet I'm as pale as they get. Why not call my ethnicity into question? Why is me being White not at the forefront of my posts? Why do people not constantly bring it up when I post?
Oh, wait - they did! On AsiaFinest and KoreanSentry, me being White was used to dismiss my opinions and experiences.
Here, it seems to be the popular trend to dismiss SR's posts because of his ethnicity. That shit has to stop. It's against the TOS and just plain ignorant.
He's welcome to share his thoughts on this forum, just like any other poster. If you don't like his opinions, address them. Attacking the poster, or their race/ethnicity is NOT what this forum is about. |
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salutbonjour
Joined: 22 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The funny thing is that if you ask Koreans what do they think of Turkey, they will say they love Turkey for helping in the war. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
I'd guess 95% or (very likely) more of the westerners who come to Korea to teach (or who post on this board) are not of Korean descent. If he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case.
And one could similarly ask you, "WTF issue is it to you?" |
I'm pretty sure he's adopted and his folks are white, so you might want to rethink this one. |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| augustine wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
I'd guess 95% or (very likely) more of the westerners who come to Korea to teach (or who post on this board) are not of Korean descent. If he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case.
And one could similarly ask you, "WTF issue is it to you?" |
I'm pretty sure he's adopted and his folks are white, so you might want to rethink this one. |
There's nothing to rethink. Again, I think it's idiotic to believe that it's pure happenstance that this character wound up in Korea and spams a Korean forum daily. It's a sham. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| augustine wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| augustine wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Why does SR come here? Why does anyone come here? WTF issue is it to you? |
I'd guess 95% or (very likely) more of the westerners who come to Korea to teach (or who post on this board) are not of Korean descent. If he is of Korean descent, I think it is absolutely legitimate to infer that there may be a conflict of interest, or a psychologically self-veiled subjective motive, given the history/notoriety of the poster in question. Is it just random happenstance that he wound up in Korea, defensively spamming a Korean discussion board daily? I doubt that's the case.
And one could similarly ask you, "WTF issue is it to you?" |
I'm pretty sure he's adopted and his folks are white, so you might want to rethink this one. |
There's nothing to rethink. Again, I think it's idiotic to believe that it's pure happenstance that this character wound up in Korea and spams a Korean forum daily. It's a sham. |
Yet I do the same thing - where's your race baiting with me? Where's your ethnic attachment to MY posts?
Or is that only reserved for non-whites? |
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Patrick Bateman
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Location: Lost in Translation
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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There's nothing to rethink. Again, I think it's idiotic to believe that it's pure happenstance that this character wound up in Korea and spams a Korean forum daily. It's a sham. |
I think you're on to something...It couldn't be happenstance that an American came to Korea AND joined a message board for foreigners in Korea.
Which are you thinking: Korean Sentry, DPRK spy, maybe former KGB? |
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augustine
Joined: 08 Sep 2012
Location: México
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Patrick Bateman wrote: |
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There's nothing to rethink. Again, I think it's idiotic to believe that it's pure happenstance that this character wound up in Korea and spams a Korean forum daily. It's a sham. |
I think you're on to something...It couldn't be happenstance that an American came to Korea AND joined a message board for foreigners in Korea.
Which are you thinking: Korean Sentry, DPRK spy, maybe former KGB? |
Nah, just a confused kid. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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As someone who has actually served in the Army (U.S.) in Korea for two years, I can say that Korea owes me nothing. Neither do the people of Panama or Kuwait for that matter.
The only thing that I expect is that on appropriate Holidays people, all people remember and honor those that sacrificed of themselves for us. I think Koreans do an admirable job of this for the most part.
I think there are two mistakes people that experience anti-Americanism for the first time make. First they interpret the negative sentiments as personal. Second they expect the appreciation for events of the past to be personal.
OP, sorry you are having a rough time. Korea does not owe you anything however.
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