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Julius
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| very few South Koreans show any interest in what their former lives were like. |
Koreans have very little intellectual curiosity in general.
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| South Koreans have shown that they can become outraged about certain injustices committed against Koreans such as the Japanese government falsely claiming ownership of Dokdo. So where is the outrage about human rights violations in North Korea? |
The same hypocrisy can be seen in numerous other political situations around the world. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see much empathy for anyone here. There goes an elderly woman picking up cardboard, nobody seems to care. |
Yeah, because an elderly woman picking up cardboard is even remotely close to forced labor camp conditions, right? |
You do realize that for some, not all, they do that just because they were reared in that old school mentality of "You MUST be working". I mean, for the first 40 years of that ladies life, conditions were pretty low and the only way to get anything was to work for it. That's a habit and mindset that's pretty hard to break.
Heck, look at our grandparents, Grandma in her 90s would still fuss over setting the dinner table and cooking everything and doing the dishes. She HAS to. To just be a non-contributing useless lump is not what the older generation was brought up on.
Heck, where I live, a lot of these ladies doing gardening for the city or hauling crap, do it with a bunch of other old ladies. It seems to suggest that they enjoy being physically active and the social aspect of it, as opposed to sitting on the sofa watching TV.
Of course in other situations its indicative of a lock of a social safety network.
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As for Koreans not caring, what can they do? It's not like they can just start going over there and doing Red Cross type work. The other option is war, not exactly appealing. They could be putting more money in the reconstruction fund, but obviously are leery of that fund getting too big, lest scumbag politicians get their meathooks on it. |
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whiteshoes
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:39 am Post subject: |
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If you like statistics, there's a book published by the Database Center for North Korean Human Rights called 2009/2010 Trends in Economic Activities of North Korean Defectors. A little dated, but starkly shows what North Koreans are up against in terms of employment and education when arriving in South Korea. |
No joke, I was just reading that on Wednesday. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Ranman wrote: |
| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| I don't see much empathy for anyone here. There goes an elderly woman picking up cardboard, nobody seems to care. |
Yeah, because an elderly woman picking up cardboard is even remotely close to forced labor camp conditions, right? |
You do realize that for some, not all, they do that just because they were reared in that old school mentality of "You MUST be working". I mean, for the first 40 years of that ladies life, conditions were pretty low and the only way to get anything was to work for it. That's a habit and mindset that's pretty hard to break.
Heck, look at our grandparents, Grandma in her 90s would still fuss over setting the dinner table and cooking everything and doing the dishes. She HAS to. To just be a non-contributing useless lump is not what the older generation was brought up on.
Heck, where I live, a lot of these ladies doing gardening for the city or hauling crap, do it with a bunch of other old ladies. It seems to suggest that they enjoy being physically active and the social aspect of it, as opposed to sitting on the sofa watching TV.
Of course in other situations its indicative of a lock of a social safety network.
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As for Koreans not caring, what can they do? It's not like they can just start going over there and doing Red Cross type work. The other option is war, not exactly appealing. They could be putting more money in the reconstruction fund, but obviously are leery of that fund getting too big, lest scumbag politicians get their meathooks on it. |
How about protesting against China for sending NK refugees back? How about putting more pressure on the government in Seoul to rescue NK refugees? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| figshdg wrote: |
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Not to hijack the thread, but speaking of that book:
Escape from Camp 14
Does anyone know if Shin dong Hyuk gets any revenue from book sales?
I was going to buy one the other day, and then I thought "what if Mr. Harder
is the only person benefiting from the sale of this book?"
I have no clue how to find that out. |
I know Mr. Shin. Yes, he does get revenue from it. |
Thank you sir, then I will buy a copy. |
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ghostrider
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not a choice between complete indifference and war. Koreans do know how to express themselves when they feel strongly about an issue. Psy rapped about killing Americans after a US Army tank ran over two Korean girls. I don't see a similar amount of outrage being expressed about human rights violations in North Korea. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Americans and Japanese won't get emotional and try to do things, like the Norks would if you criticse them. Kind of like how some groups in the west will criticise christians and others but say nothing against islam. Fear and hypocracy. |
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sluggo832004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Americans and Japanese won't get emotional and try to do things, like the Norks would if you criticse them. Kind of like how some groups in the west will criticise christians and others but say nothing against islam. Fear and hypocracy. |
I was eating and a girl got mad cause I said I tried dog soup. She said it while eating chicken mcnuggets. lol.
"How can you eat a dog?????????"
I said "How can you eat a baby chicken you animal?"  |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| sluggo832004 wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| Americans and Japanese won't get emotional and try to do things, like the Norks would if you criticse them. Kind of like how some groups in the west will criticise christians and others but say nothing against islam. Fear and hypocracy. |
I was eating and a girl got mad cause I said I tried dog soup. She said it while eating chicken mcnuggets. lol.
"How can you eat a dog?????????"
I said "How can you eat a baby chicken you animal?" |
I rest my case. Ha ha. (A western chick, I assume? Cause I left that militant political correctness behind in the west....) |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea
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Fgshdg, yes you are correct. I accidentally copied you in the quote. haha my bad.
Waeguken - hipocracy by people who criticise Christianity but not Islam? Um...you will find both religions and any other get their fair serve of criticism. There is no hipocracy. I don't hear many people writing glowing reviews about the treatment of women in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.
As others have said, it's 50 years down the track. What do you expect South Koreans to actually do about any feelings towards the plight in the North. A helpless situation which is totally avoidable. In their minds maybe there are better places where they can actually make a difference. |
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GoldMember
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| North Koreans are still Koreans. Koreans don't tank about Koreans doing bad things-especialy when its done to other Koreans. Only talk about Koreans when they win some sort of medal. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
Fgshdg, yes you are correct. I accidentally copied you in the quote. haha my bad.
Waeguken - hipocracy by people who criticise Christianity but not Islam? Um...you will find both religions and any other get their fair serve of criticism. There is no hipocracy. I don't hear many people writing glowing reviews about the treatment of women in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.As others have said, it's 50 years down the track. What do you expect South Koreans to actually do about any feelings towards the plight in the North. A helpless situation which is totally avoidable. In their minds maybe there are better places where they can actually make a difference. |
No, but they are uncharacteristically silent on the topic. They criticize other groups but say nothing of this issue. The silence is deafening. Perhaps, Bill Maher is the only exception to this rule. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| liveinkorea316 wrote: |
Fgshdg, yes you are correct. I accidentally copied you in the quote. haha my bad.
Waeguken - hipocracy by people who criticise Christianity but not Islam? Um...you will find both religions and any other get their fair serve of criticism. There is no hipocracy. I don't hear many people writing glowing reviews about the treatment of women in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia.As others have said, it's 50 years down the track. What do you expect South Koreans to actually do about any feelings towards the plight in the North. A helpless situation which is totally avoidable. In their minds maybe there are better places where they can actually make a difference. |
No, but they are uncharacteristically silent on the topic. They criticize other groups but say nothing of this issue. The silence is deafening. Perhaps, Bill Maher is the only exception to this rule. |
Typical criticize that which you don't fear and stay quiet on that which you fear. |
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liveinkorea316
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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haha you have the wrong end of the stick completely. People criticize and complain about things if they have a hope of affecting them in that way.
Think logically. There is much less chance of affecting one of those religions than the other. One is within our society and cultural roots and the other is not. People protest and complain about the Catholic churches views on this and that because they feel that this might affect change.
Good luck with your protests to the Taleban mate. haha |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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The real question should be, why isn't the rest of the world
doing more about the situation?
The regime is more brutal than Nazi Germany, but hey it's only Koreans so
no one cares? |
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