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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| jonpurdy wrote: |
| Entirely possible we're being trolled by a Korean reporter trying to get someone to say something that could be quoted or misconstrued. |
Yes, the writing style is not that of a native speaker tho the mistakes are relatively few. Darya sunshine, I think the work you refer to in Manhattan was when your Korean company sent you to the US.
If that is true but I can tell it's more likely to be true than your story here about the supposed hagwon you're supposedly working in. The final poll option gave you away 'Oh I can work in hagwon...etc' 
Native English speaking teachers just don't write like that. Maybe you're an intern for one of those dreadful Korean papers. Or a young journalist. If so you have my limited sympathy but native English speaker you are not.
Maybe you are a recruiter. In that case you have no sympathy from me whatsoever. Maybe you are just a sad little Korean netizen who trolls around for information and hopes to sell some info to Immigration or wherever. If so, please go and play on the Han Expressway in peak traffic.
Oh, go away from forum Darya!
ASAP Darya! Fellow caf�-ers, do not feed the Korean troll, whether that's Korean as in born in Korea or Korean as in gypo Korean. |
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Darya
Joined: 09 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, I don't know how to react now. I'm not a Korean, again. I was born in China and went to the states to get further education. I worked at a production company near fashion street in Mahattan. Like what I said I just started my teaching job in Korea two weeks ago, and I found this forum maybe I can get some suggestions from. Some teachers also complained the problems I had. I really appreciated for the kind posts. But why does it seem go so wrong now? I feel I'm blamed by scheming something that I don't even know? |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Are you teaching Chinese language at your hagwon?
To get my students under control, I warn them that we may have to stay late if things don't settle down and everyone learns what they need to learn. And I follow through on it. It greatly reduces the problem and it also gives the boss, the Korean staff, and the moms the impression that I care enough to stay late to work with the kids. |
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Darya
Joined: 09 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| EZE wrote: |
Are you teaching Chinese language at your hagwon?
To get my students under control, I warn them that we may have to stay late if things don't settle down and everyone learns what they need to learn. And I follow through on it. It greatly reduces the problem and it also gives the boss, the Korean staff, and the moms the impression that I care enough to stay late to work with the kids. |
No I'm teaching English. Thank you for the advice. I will try if my class schedule is not that tight  |
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Darya
Joined: 09 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ontheway"]
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| Beeyee wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| Learn some Korean, and life will get a lot easier. Best of luck! |
I assume the OP is actually Korean since they mention Incheon is their home. The writing style is certainly not that of a native speaker. |
You say you lived in the US for years. So, where are you from originally? Where did you grow up? What other language(s) did you grow up with? |
I was made in China:) I speak Madarin, Korean, and Japanese besides English. |
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lemak
Joined: 02 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| EZE wrote: |
| And I follow through on it. |
This. Don't issue negatives like ultimatums, warnings, threats, or even promises, potentials for reward, games, movies or other positives if you are either unwilling or unable to follow through with them. Kids may be kids, but their B.S detectors are still pretty well honed. As soon as they realize you're either a flake, or powerless against them they'll do what they like and run the class.
"If you speak Korean one more time everyone stays back 5 minutes!!" They'll test you. Follow through with your warning.
"If you can go the whole class without speaking Korean to each other then tomorrow we will play a game!" They will try to do the right thing. Follow through with the promise.
Good luck. Teaching can be challenging at the best of times, but as soon as your students (especially the young ones) lose respect for you it can be damn near impossible. Be consistent and persistent and it will get easier after a few weeks. |
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Darya
Joined: 09 Apr 2013
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| Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:32 am Post subject: |
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[quote="lemak"]
| EZE wrote: |
| And I follow through on it. |
This. Don't issue negatives like ultimatums, warnings, threats, or even promises, potentials for reward, games, movies or other positives if you are either unwilling or unable to follow through with them. Kids may be kids, but their B.S detectors are still pretty well honed. As soon as they realize you're either a flake, or powerless against them they'll do what they like and run the class.
"If you speak Korean one more time everyone stays back 5 minutes!!" They'll test you. Follow through with your warning.
"If you can go the whole class without speaking Korean to each other then tomorrow we will play a game!" They will try to do the right thing. Follow through with the promise.
Good luck. Teaching can be challenging at the best of times, but as soon as your students (especially the young ones) lose respect for you it can be damn near impossible. Be consistent and persistent and it will get easier after a few weeks.
Agreed! And I will try to be powerful! Thank you for your kind and useful suggestion! |
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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:47 am Post subject: |
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it took me 6 years of bad kids to workout my discipline protocol. it involves writing names on the board, yelling at different levels and finally retrieving a Korean teacher and having the student removed.
practice your yelling on bad kids when youre totally calm and they are clearly violating. never let anyone slide on anything serious like interrupting. treat everyone as equals. let them know the system and consequences. at some point you may have to insist that certain students be removed from the class for its entire duration. it is essential to you ability to do your job. make sure your coworkers understand that. its prob easier for me to tell Koreans that. I'm a little older than most teachers so I get a little more respect around the academy. The goofy young fun teacher who never disciplines eventually gets walked on by students. That was me and I don't mind the abuse, but you get more done and save your voice by enforcing the basic school rules that everyone already knows.
you need to be able to use your voice. it's ok to yell at students. it might seem ridiculous since you probably don't communicate by yelling ever, but that's what most of the rest of the world uses to make an argument more compelling |
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