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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Apologize and throw some rice at north koreans. That's the current defense plan for Korea.  |
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Centurion Counter-RAM |
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Here you go, OP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-RAM
This thing blasts the North's artillery rounds out of the sky before they can hit Seoul.
According to my, ahem, source, a reserve officer in the ROK navy, everything else coming southward will be decommissioned on Day One. Nork ships and submarines sunk--check. Nork planes blown out of the sky--check.
ROK Special Forces then seize Pyongyang on Day Three.
Poor North Korea is completely wrecked in just three days. Wishful thinking? I don't know--the technology is certainly on SK's side, though.
Trouble is, an awful lot of those Norks actually BELIEVE. What becomes of a reunited Korea about a third of whose population BELIEVE in communism--or Kimism, or whatever? |
You know DPRK has WAYYY more special forces than RoK, right? |
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Landros
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject: hey op |
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hey op, your job as op is to post your ideas. not ask us ours.
I lost a debate in high school where I supported NATO continuing. The girl that called for it's dismantling was more popular and everyone was attracted to her not the ideas. In the end though it looks like I win because NATO is stronger than ever and is even interested in coming to Korea.
Look into what NATO has to offer and you might find a very current angle.
Maybe look at what happened to Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Osama bin Laden and Yasser Arafat.
The department of defense also assassinates. Find out what Israel's defense policy is.
Tell us what you come up with and report how your mock council reacts, please, as a courtesy. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd be willing to go stand on top of a mountain and "moon" them if that helps the struggle any.... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| You know DPRK has WAYYY more special forces than RoK, right? |
One wonders how "special" those special forces are. Are they like Navy SEALs (highly unlikely), The Iraqi Republican Guard (Probably), or is it simply soldiers who actually have modern equipment and training and don't spend their time goosestepping and charging en masse with bayonets fixed.
What's disturbing (or relieving) is that apparently these guys below are North Korea's middle tier...
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226596/320815-north-korea.jpg |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Special operation units are really just units who have "special" unconventional capabilities such as infiltrating enemy lines, disrupting supply and comm lines, and recon. Spec op activities can range from high tier stuff like assassinating or capturing high ranking officers to relatively unremarkable jobs like scouting the terrain and weather so planes can land.
Due to the nature of these operations many units demand and provide much higher level of training and toughness but it's that's not always the case. A special operation unit can easily be made by getting a regular infantry battalion, telling them they conduct special operations now and slapping the word "special" on the name. It's really a matter of classification so its not really indicative of how tough or effective they are.
For example, my division had a recon unit that are supposed to conduct unconventional operations but they weren't technically "special forces" because they were a sub-unit of the division rather than being under ROK Special Warfare Command.
The divisions of special operations personnel North Korea has probably aren't all on the level of Delta Force or DevGru operatives. Having tens and thousands of "special forces" don't matter much if you lack the means to train, deploy, support and supply them. |
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javis
Joined: 28 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Special operation units are really just units who have "special" unconventional capabilities such as infiltrating enemy lines, disrupting supply and comm lines, and recon. Spec op activities can range from high tier stuff like assassinating or capturing high ranking officers to relatively unremarkable jobs like scouting the terrain and weather so planes can land.
Due to the nature of these operations many units demand and provide much higher level of training and toughness but it's that's not always the case. A special operation unit can easily be made by getting a regular infantry battalion, telling them they conduct special operations now and slapping the word "special" on the name. It's really a matter of classification so its not really indicative of how tough or effective they are.
For example, my division had a recon unit that are supposed to conduct unconventional operations but they weren't technically "special forces" because they were a sub-unit of the division rather than being under ROK Special Warfare Command.
The divisions of special operations personnel North Korea has probably aren't all on the level of Delta Force or DevGru operatives. Having tens and thousands of "special forces" don't matter much if you lack the means to train, deploy, support and supply them. |
The parts in bold are where the confusion stems from on this topic. Thinking of SOF units in terms of tiers is a very US-centric point of view. From a global perspective, it can be seen that a military's SOF units are those that it designates as such due to their training and capability to performs missions that their conventional forces don't do. What that actually entails will depend on the specifics. For example, amphibious operations are associated with SOF troops in the North, but with the ROK Marine Corps in the South, which has conventional as well as SOF troops. Also, as you were hinting in your first paragraph, the SOF umbrella emcombasses more activities than regular people would imagine. |
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