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Seoul National vs Korea vs SKK vs Yonsei MBA programs
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beison



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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beison



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I wonder if any foreigner who completed a Korean MBA got a non-contract job in Korea not related to English teaching?

And does a Korean MBA have any goodwill in your home country?

[Off topic, but I'm curious if a non-gyopo has ever got a non-contract job in this country; I've never heard of one.]


To answer your last point first, a number of the individuals I'm talking to currently have graduated with MBA's from the schools in the title of this thread and are working for Korean chaebols in non-english related positions.

With respect to the rational for the value of the Korean MBA in my home country, I finalized my decision to get an MBA in Korea after a discussion I had with a higher level executive from Aramark (a multi-billion corporation in America). He said that if it were him doing the hiring, the combination of an American undergraduate degree from a good school in a technical field, a few years of American work experience, plus the international quality of the Korean MBA would paint a picture of a well rounded candidate for a job.

Does this apply to all hiring managers in America? Possibly not, but it was definitely reassuring.
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toby99



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the point is, make sure you have a clear plan of what you want to do before you enter such a program. If you have clear goals of the kind of job you want before you enter, and are certain the type of job you want will be available b/c you graduate from the program, then do the program.

If you can't answer that, however, you're gonna be in for a rude awakening.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beison wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I wonder if any foreigner who completed a Korean MBA got a non-contract job in Korea not related to English teaching?

And does a Korean MBA have any goodwill in your home country?

[Off topic, but I'm curious if a non-gyopo has ever got a non-contract job in this country; I've never heard of one.]


To answer your last point first, a number of the individuals I'm talking to currently have graduated with MBA's from the schools in the title of this thread and are working for Korean chaebols in non-english related positions.

With respect to the rational for the value of the Korean MBA in my home country, I finalized my decision to get an MBA in Korea after a discussion I had with a higher level executive from Aramark (a multi-billion corporation in America). He said that if it were him doing the hiring, the combination of an American undergraduate degree from a good school in a technical field, a few years of American work experience, plus the international quality of the Korean MBA would paint a picture of a well rounded candidate for a job.

Does this apply to all hiring managers in America? Possibly not, but it was definitely reassuring.


International quality of a Korean MBA? Rolling Eyes
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Hoost



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal experience in completing an MBA in Korea.

Attended SKKU ASIA MBA program. So I'm familiar with all the inner workings of their Global joint programs, MBA, and even an MS Management degree.

Here is my opinion on the original debate of "value".

1) If you plan to go back to the USA, choose a dual degree program from the Global SKKU program. It will hold more perceived value in the States.

2) If you plan to work in Korea. The highest perceived value is from SNU without a doubt. Maybe the coursework or classes are not as "valuable", but graduating with that alumni base and prestige will foster more connections than if you graduated from a 'lesser' perceived university. SKKU is perceived as the lowest of the bunch in Korea.

3) The reasons for doing an MBA is to get the connections. The learning and educational aspects are secondary. You want that alumni-base and within Korea, SNU has the strongest most prestigious elite group. Sure maybe SNU is slipping, but I guarantee that those people who graduated 20-30 years ago from SNU were top-notch and will immediately be more accessible to you when applying for jobs. A form of nepotism is quite high in Korea.

4) So, in conclusion... stay in Korea.. go for SNU without a doubt (plus its cheaper). But if you plan to go back to the USA or wherever you're from... go to SKKU dual degree program... although it is the most expensive of the bunch. Also, just to note... though SKKU is sponsored by Samsung, samsung does not actively recruit from SKKU (you'd probably have a better chance if you graduated from SNU).

And in case you're wondering... completing my MBA allowed me to further my career in education and secured me a position at a National University as a tenure-track professor, complete with bonuses, research grants, etc.
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beison



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, that is some awesome advice Hoost. Do you know much about SNU's scholarship situation? I've heard lots about the amount of support given from Yonsei, but not as much about how much SNU offers.
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IlIlNine



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I wonder if any foreigner who completed a Korean MBA got a non-contract job in Korea not related to English teaching?

And does a Korean MBA have any goodwill in your home country?

[Off topic, but I'm curious if a non-gyopo has ever got a non-contract job in this country; I've never heard of one.]


I'm a regular full time employee at a Chaebol - not contract.
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beison



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IlIlNine wrote:
Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I wonder if any foreigner who completed a Korean MBA got a non-contract job in Korea not related to English teaching?

And does a Korean MBA have any goodwill in your home country?

[Off topic, but I'm curious if a non-gyopo has ever got a non-contract job in this country; I've never heard of one.]


I'm a regular full time employee at a Chaebol - not contract.


Stan, I'm still hoping you will put me in contact with your friends with the degrees. I'd love to ask them questions.
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Hoost



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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The scholarship situation in most MBA's are a standard 30-50% off just for being a foreigner and basically getting straight A's. It sounds quite difficult, but considering I graduated from the states with around a 3.5 in the States, I actually was ranked number 1 out of my MBA class and graduated with a 4.5 (straight A+). Grading is quite generous here especially if you tell them that you need to receive a certain point in order to sustain your scholarship.

SNU is a public school (National University) so it is considerably cheaper than your other options. I would say almost half the cost of private universities, which is also why SNU is so popular.

In order to qualify for any MBA program though, you must show proof that you have at least 10 mil won in your bank account.
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Juregen



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's Your Daddy? wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I wonder if any foreigner who completed a Korean MBA got a non-contract job in Korea not related to English teaching?

And does a Korean MBA have any goodwill in your home country?

[Off topic, but I'm curious if a non-gyopo has ever got a non-contract job in this country; I've never heard of one.]



I did a G-MBA in Korea University and ALL of them got jobs on an International level. ALL of them, except me cause I preferred not to work for others.

An MBA is what YOU make of it. If you put Zero energy and Zero time in it, don't expect to be treated like royalty. Also MBA's are becoming more "normal" these days, so here we also suffer from academic inflation.

Good luck.
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beison



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:


I did a G-MBA in Korea University and ALL of them got jobs on an International level. ALL of them, except me cause I preferred not to work for others.

An MBA is what YOU make of it. If you put Zero energy and Zero time in it, don't expect to be treated like royalty. Also MBA's are becoming more "normal" these days, so here we also suffer from academic inflation.

Good luck.


Thanks for the advice. Do you have any memorable info about your time at Korea Uni's MBA? Is it a good program? They're a little different than the other three programs I've applied to since the program is only one year versus 18 months. Did you feel that an internship at a company during a summer break would have been helpful?

Also did you get a chance to talk to other students to get a feel for how the Korea Uni MBA stacked up against the others? What was it that made you choose Korea Uni, and do you think you would have gone to the same school if you could go back in time and do it all over again?

Sorry for all the questions--my admissions interview for KU is in two days Smile
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jaeexp



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have the annual prices for the mentioned MBA programs?
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beison



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaeexp wrote:
Does anyone have the annual prices for the mentioned MBA programs?


Sure do. You can find them on the website, but here's what I've learned:

Yonsei - 18 mo program, 51,000,000W
Seoul - 18 mo program, 39,000,000W
Korea Uni - 12 mo program, 46,510,000W
SungKyungKwon - 18 mo program, about 40,000,000W

None of these numbers really mean much though because it is likely that if you are applying as an international student, the word on the street is that they will provide scholarship assistance for you. I'm still waiting on that so I'll update when i find more info.
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inyoury



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
I know a number of foreigners with MBA degrees from Korean universities who are quite unemployed right now.


I would also be interested as to know who they are so I can ask them questions about the school and what they concentrated in. It seems Finance majors get the jobs.
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inyoury



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beison wrote:
jaeexp wrote:
Does anyone have the annual prices for the mentioned MBA programs?


Sure do. You can find them on the website, but here's what I've learned:

Yonsei - 18 mo program, 51,000,000W
Seoul - 18 mo program, 39,000,000W
Korea Uni - 12 mo program, 46,510,000W
SungKyungKwon - 18 mo program, about 40,000,000W

None of these numbers really mean much though because it is likely that if you are applying as an international student, the word on the street is that they will provide scholarship assistance for you. I'm still waiting on that so I'll update when i find more info.


Which schools were you accepted and are considering to attend? of have you chosen not to go for a Korean MBA?
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