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northway
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If it is in your contract and you have completed your contract with all terms then you are entitled to it..
If they don't provide one go to the labour board..It is not the schools business whether you are going to another school after this..and you are entitiled to that ticket home whether you are going forever or coming back..
I would say follow it up.. |
If you have 3 sick days and only use 1, are you entitled to 2 more when the contract is complete? Not all provisions are enforceable after a contract period.
In this case, if it is normal in the industry/business practice to show flight receipts/boarding passes in order to be reimbursed, then not leaving the country would preclude you from collecting the flight money.
This doesn't have to be put in the contract. |
You get that the OP does, in fact, wish to leave the country, yes? |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I booked a ticket in March for a trip home in July. I checked now to see if the price went up for similiar flights and it has not gone up by much. Maybe 100 dollars. A couple of years ago and previously, the prices always shot up close to summer. But I guess this country decided to stop being retarted with regards to it it's flight system. So now you boss will have no excuse for not paying the flight. If you are leaving to visit family back home before flying back and your contract says flight money you get flight money or the ticket. Don't take no for an answer. Go to expedia and check the prices and show them to your boss. |
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Dalton
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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If the contract includes a flight home then you should get that. The fact that you wish to work in Korea again has nothing to do with it. I usually used my flight home and then returned a month or so later to another job in another city.
I once worked (briefly) for a school that messed around their teachers when it came to flights home. One was instructed to find a replacement teacher first and the other was told that flights were too expensive and so they must find a ticket under a certain price and purchase it first before being reimbursed. The price was unrealistic. The severance had not yet been paid. In both cases the school relented at the last possible moment but not before causing great stress to their former teachers.
All other schools I have worked for just handed over the ticket along with severance. One school even threw a good bye party. The only time I didn't fly home (I took a vacation instead) I told the school I didn't need the ticket. The ticket had no financial value. It was always too late to get a refund when I got the ticket.
I don't expect compensation for an unused ticket. That's not the intent of this perk. Fly you in, give you basic furnished accommodation, fly you home after the contract. Makes it easy to pick Korea when you apply for jobs from home. Makes it easier for Korea to get teachers.
I don't expect compensation for getting a position from within Korea either but it does get my attention when a school offers a relocation allowance.
Please be sure to warn any teachers who post here about working at that school if you don't get your ticket. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
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| teacherbunny wrote: |
If it is in your contract and you have completed your contract with all terms then you are entitled to it..
If they don't provide one go to the labour board..It is not the schools business whether you are going to another school after this..and you are entitiled to that ticket home whether you are going forever or coming back..
I would say follow it up.. |
If you have 3 sick days and only use 1, are you entitled to 2 more when the contract is complete? Not all provisions are enforceable after a contract period.
In this case, if it is normal in the industry/business practice to show flight receipts/boarding passes in order to be reimbursed, then not leaving the country would preclude you from collecting the flight money.
This doesn't have to be put in the contract. |
You get that the OP does, in fact, wish to leave the country, yes? |
Leaving the country on whose dime Einstein? Your use of the word "leave" is really really really truly really not sincere, since they will return.
So, he doesn't really want to leave. He will return, wait and see. Oooh la la!!! and all this mumbo jumbo  |
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Dalton
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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A pretty standard contract to teach EFL in Korea contains a prepaid flight to Korea, prepaid, basically furnished accommodation and a prepaid flight home.
The fact that the teacher taught in Korea previously or intends to teach afterwards under the same standard contract is irrelevant.
I don't know how much clearer this can be stated.
In this case AFAWK this school is not honouring the final terms of their contract with this teacher. Hopefully the poster warns anyone who posts on this board seeking info on that school. |
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YTMND
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| The fact that the teacher taught in Korea previously or intends to teach afterwards under the same standard contract is irrelevant. |
It is relevant when you consider the scope of the contract only deals with 1 year.
Should we expect train fare even though we don't need it? The school is responsible for providing transportation when it is needed.
Just because it is in the contract doesn't mean teachers are entitled to it. This goes with things like overtime pay too. If you don't do overtime, you aren't entitled to overtime pay. However, it is mentioned when the need arises.
The fact it is in the contract is the irrelevant part. It's how both parties act in accordance with the contract that determines who is owed what.
The money would not go to the teacher, but to the airline industry. If the teacher claims they should get the money without a flight home, then they are actually breaching the contract. They originally agreed to come and leave. By not leaving, you are nullifying the contract at best. |
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Dalton
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact that the teacher taught in Korea previously or intends to teach afterwards under the same standard contract is irrelevant. |
It is relevant when you consider the scope of the contract only deals with 1 year.
Should we expect train fare even though we don't need it? The school is responsible for providing transportation when it is needed.
Just because it is in the contract doesn't mean teachers are entitled to it. This goes with things like overtime pay too. If you don't do overtime, you aren't entitled to overtime pay. However, it is mentioned when the need arises.
The fact it is in the contract is the irrelevant part. It's how both parties act in accordance with the contract that determines who is owed what.
The money would not go to the teacher, but to the airline industry. If the teacher claims they should get the money without a flight home, then they are actually breaching the contract. They originally agreed to come and leave. By not leaving, you are nullifying the contract at best. |
I think the point is that the hogwon decided that he didn't need it and that is not their decision to make if the contract specifies that he will receive a paid ticket back to his home country. They should have asked him beforehand if he will need the ticket.
This is the hogwon's mistake and hopefully they fix the problem by buying the ticket if it's going to be used. In that case no harm done really.
IMHO this perk has no cash value whatsoever for the teacher (I'm not talking about taxes) unless the contract states that it does. It's about a physical ticket. If you don't need it the school saves money. The teacher loses nothing if they don't get the ticket they don't need.
Negotiating a ticket to someplace other than the closest airport to your home in your home country is a different matter altogether. I don't see why a hogwon would agree to this but that's between them and their teacher. I see no obligation for the hogwon to substitute the ticket home for anything else (cash or ticket to vacation, next job location etc.) unless the contract specifies it or the hogwon decides it will and the teacher agrees.
As far as I can tell from the OP's post he is questioning the hogwon's decision to not give him a ticket because they heard he was going to work in Korea again when it is a contractual obligation and they gave everyone else a ticket home. He is right. They should have asked him if he needed the ticket. If he does and they give him one then no harm done. In that case one could argue that this may be a school to recommend to posters asking for info. Yes they made a mistake but they fixed it. |
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