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Pet peeve: Fake maple syrup
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Canadian Club



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
C'mom man!

Did the Canadian really just start a post complaining about fake Maple Syrup?!? That's too much. Very Happy (But I guess I'm only amused becuase I'm Canadian and can't stand real maple syrup. It's gotta be Aunt Jemima for me!)

Can some American please start a thread complaining about not having access to an AK47.


Ha!
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IPayInCash



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus I didnt know Canadians take their syrup so seriously.

I thought that was a stereotype.

I guess it makes sense since I when to RMT with some C's and they were complaining it wasnt the real deal Rolling Eyes
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash wrote:
Jesus I didnt know Canadians take their syrup so seriously.

I thought that was a stereotype.

I guess it makes sense since I when to RMT with some C's and they were complaining it wasnt the real deal Rolling Eyes


It would be one thing if they called it "pancake syrup" or whatever, but it's dishonest to use the word "maple" in the name of your sandwich when there's no maple syrup in it. I don't expect real maple syrup unless it's advertised.
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IPayInCash



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
IPayInCash wrote:
Jesus I didnt know Canadians take their syrup so seriously.

I thought that was a stereotype.

I guess it makes sense since I when to RMT with some C's and they were complaining it wasnt the real deal Rolling Eyes


It would be one thing if they called it "pancake syrup" or whatever, but it's dishonest to use the word "maple" in the name of your sandwich when there's no maple syrup in it. I don't expect real maple syrup unless it's advertised.


I'm pretty sure you (and some 20 odd Canadians) in Korea are the only ones complaining about that. I'd bet a lot of money a Korean never went to the counter and demanded a refund because the syrup didn't have maple in it, and then went on to suggest they should change the name to "pancake syrup"Rolling Eyes

The Koreans probably think maple syrup = syrup. It's an imported product after all.

I don't think they care enough to change it for a few people.
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northway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IPayInCash wrote:
cdninkorea wrote:
IPayInCash wrote:
Jesus I didnt know Canadians take their syrup so seriously.

I thought that was a stereotype.

I guess it makes sense since I when to RMT with some C's and they were complaining it wasnt the real deal Rolling Eyes


It would be one thing if they called it "pancake syrup" or whatever, but it's dishonest to use the word "maple" in the name of your sandwich when there's no maple syrup in it. I don't expect real maple syrup unless it's advertised.


I'm pretty sure you (and some 20 odd Canadians) in Korea are the only ones complaining about that. I'd bet a lot of money a Korean never went to the counter and demanded a refund because the syrup didn't have maple in it, and then went on to suggest they should change the name to "pancake syrup"Rolling Eyes

The Koreans probably think maple syrup = syrup. It's an imported product after all.

I don't think they care enough to change it for a few people.


This isn't a Korean issue specifically, as misuse of the term is rampant amongst (idiot) Americans as well. Maple has an extremely distinct flavor while also being a premium product, and as such it's really dishonest to claim something as being maple when it's just corn syrup. It's equivalent to serving chuck and calling it sirloin.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
This isn't a Korean issue specifically, as misuse of the term is rampant amongst (idiot) Americans as well.


Koreans and Americans just want syrup that tastes like maple syrup and tastes good and most don't care whether it's real or not, and certainly won't pay for it. Americans and Koreans feel there's better things to spend money on. Unlike people like you who identify yourself with a group or a country based solely on consuming or demanding real maple syrup. How shallow and frivolous can you get. Don't you Canadians have better things to think about or identify with? No restaurant in Korea or the USA is going to spend money on real maple syrup, accept the dumb ones that don't mind going out of business.


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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
but it's dishonest to use the word "maple" in the name of your sandwich when there's no maple syrup in it.


Whether or not it's dishonest depends on how much you are paying for the sandwich and the type of restaurant.
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northway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
northway wrote:
This isn't a Korean issue specifically, as misuse of the term is rampant amongst (idiot) Americans as well.


Koreans and Americans just want syrup that tastes like maple syrup and tastes good and most don't care whether it's real or not, and certainly won't pay for it. Americans and Koreans feel there's better things to spend money on. Unlike people like you who identify yourself with a group or a country based solely on consuming or demanding real maple syrup. How shallow and frivolous can you get. Don't you Canadians have better things to think about or identify with? No restaurant in Korea or the USA is going to spend money on real maple syrup, accept the dumb ones that don't mind going out of business.


A) I'm American.

B) There are plenty of successful restaurants in the States that use real maple syrup.

C) I have zero expectation that restaurants will serve maple syrup. I do have an expectation that they won't mislabel what they're serving.

D) There is zero relation between table syrup and maple syrup in terms of flavor, outside of the fact that both are sweet. Table syrup is fine, and at times I rather enjoy it, but that doesn't mean that it's anything resembling maple syrup.

I grew up with two distinct products in the household which could be applied to pancakes/waffles/french toast/etc.: syrup (table syrup) and maple syrup (maple syrup). All I'm saying is that it's stupid at best and dishonest at worst to call the former by the latter's name, considering it doesn't say "maple" anywhere on the bottle, doesn't even feature imitation maple flavor, and doesn't feature any ingredients that come from a maple tree.


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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typical store-bought pancake syrup is mostly high-fructose corn syrup, a cheap and nasty product of modern food processing, maybe with chemical flavouring to give it a maple or butter-like flavour.

Maple syrup on the other hand:
- has a very distinctive taste.
- collected from the sap of maple trees and boiled down to a thick consistency, basically the same way it's been done for centuries.
- is expensive and localized to areas that have maple trees.

Countries have enforced labeling protections in trade agreements for far lesser distinguished products. Take 'champagne' or 'cognac' in France, for example vs regular "sparking wine" or "brandy".

I don't even see it as protectionism though. Calling table syrup maple syrup is like labelling honey as maple syrup, they both may be tasty but they're two different things.


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northway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
Pancake syrup is mostly high-fructose corn syrup, a cheap and nasty product of modern food processing, maybe with chemical flavouring to give it a maple or butter-like flavour.

Maple syrup on the other hand:
- has a very distinctive taste.
- collected from the sap of maple trees and boiled down to a thick consistency, basically the same way it's been done for centuries.
- is expensive and localized to areas that have maple trees.

Countries have enforced labeling protections in trade agreements for far lesser distinguished products. Take 'champagne' or 'cognac' in France, for example vs regular "sparking wine" 'brandy'.


Right, and I feel like the people who are saying our argument is absurd are probably the same folks who would flip their shit over mislabeled bourbon.
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silkhighway



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:


Right, and I feel like the people who are saying our argument is absurd are probably the same folks who would flip their shit over mislabeled bourbon.


And in the same way, I know many people don't care about the difference between margarine and butter, but anyone who is a professional cook or cares about what they're putting in their body certainly do.
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IPayInCash



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL @ people complaining about their maple syrup being mislabeled.

I want a video of you guys going into the store and complaining and demanding they stop mislabeling their products.

I want to see the confused look on the Korean teenager as he shrugs his shoulders and walks away Laughing
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