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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| War Eagle wrote: |
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| Could be a religious symbol. They had those in Taiwan. Nothing at all related to the Nazis. |
The swastika is a religious symbol, yes. The OP is mentioning the swastika paired with the Nazi eagle. |
My bad. Missed that in the OP. |
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Rofpo
Joined: 12 Jun 2013
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Why is this surprising?
Ask your students who Harry S. Truman is...you'll get no response. Hell, most don't even know when the Korean War was, let alone any facts surrounding it.
Ignorance, that's all there is on this island. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
So, instead you'd like the op to go and take pictures for you to satisfy your curiosity?  |
Well if the OP is going to post about, common courtesy and sensible writing dictates that they supply some pics.
"There's this statue in Ansan that looks like George Costanza picking his nose."
"Really? You got a pic?"
"If you want to see it, head out to Ansan yourself."
Can you imagine having such a conversation? The least the OP could say is "Next time I'm there, I'll try and score a pic." Saying "If you want to see it, go there yourself" is just lame.
The OP lives in Keumcheon apparently. The vast majority of us do not live in Keumcheon. So is it better for all of us to trek out to Keumcheon on the chance that we might get to see this cleaning crew, or should the OP try and score a pic and throw it up there? |
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joeteacher
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Rofpo wrote: |
Why is this surprising?
Ask your students who Harry S. Truman is...you'll get no response. Hell, most don't even know when the Korean War was, let alone any facts surrounding it.
Ignorance, that's all there is on this island. |
Are you trying to be funny, troll? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| joeteacher wrote: |
| Rofpo wrote: |
Why is this surprising?
Ask your students who Harry S. Truman is...you'll get no response. Hell, most don't even know when the Korean War was, let alone any facts surrounding it.
Ignorance, that's all there is on this island. |
Are you trying to be funny, troll? |
Unfortunately, he's right about the Korean War bit. There were some reports a few months ago in the newspaper... the younger generation knew VERY little about the Korean war.
It's not too surprising they know even less about the conflicts in Europe. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I found it funny how the OP was shocked enough to start a thread about it but didn't even bother to take pictures in an era where everybody has cameras on their phones? |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
The OP lives in Keumcheon apparently. The vast majority of us do not live in Keumcheon. So is it better for all of us to trek out to Keumcheon on the chance that we might get to see this cleaning crew, or should the OP try and score a pic and throw it up there? |
I do? No I don't ... I don't even live near there. |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| fermentation wrote: |
| I found it funny how the OP was shocked enough to start a thread about it but didn't even bother to take pictures in an era where everybody has cameras on their phones? |
So fermentation, how many Korean people have you randomly seen and then asked to photograph with your phone?
In truth, I did consider it, but I couldn't remember 1) how to ask someone's permission, or 2) the verb for 'take' as in 'take a picture'. And 3) the only word I know for uniform is 교복, but that's the wrong kind. Maybe your Korean is better than mine?
Beyond this, what if the guy knew what the symbol is and felt uneasy wearing it but did so just because he was told to? How would you feel if that were you and someone asked to photograph it?
To approach the situation in a considerate, ethical way is actually not the same as suddenly pulling out your phone and clicking a shot of the guy's front pocket. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
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| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
So, instead you'd like the op to go and take pictures for you to satisfy your curiosity?  |
Well if the OP is going to post about, common courtesy and sensible writing dictates that they supply some pics.
"There's this statue in Ansan that looks like George Costanza picking his nose."
"Really? You got a pic?"
"If you want to see it, head out to Ansan yourself."
Can you imagine having such a conversation? The least the OP could say is "Next time I'm there, I'll try and score a pic." Saying "If you want to see it, go there yourself" is just lame.
The OP lives in Keumcheon apparently. The vast majority of us do not live in Keumcheon. So is it better for all of us to trek out to Keumcheon on the chance that we might get to see this cleaning crew, or should the OP try and score a pic and throw it up there? |
Common courtesy for who exactly? The op posted about something that he found odd. I don't agree that it's his/her onus to provide a pic to satisfy the reader. He said, hell even gave you a map, where this happened. Is it really his responsibility to take pictures (risking a potentially negative situation for himself) just to prove that it happened. You can either believe what he said and take it for what it is or you can take your happy arse up there and see for yourself if you are skeptical. Or, even better, you can just sit at your keyboard and do nothing whether you believe it to be true one way or the other.
Really, SR is it necessary for people to have to provide pics these days to back up posts? That is falling into the realm of that pretentious poster that shows up demanding stats and links for everything. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
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| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
So, instead you'd like the op to go and take pictures for you to satisfy your curiosity?  |
Well if the OP is going to post about, common courtesy and sensible writing dictates that they supply some pics.
"There's this statue in Ansan that looks like George Costanza picking his nose."
"Really? You got a pic?"
"If you want to see it, head out to Ansan yourself."
Can you imagine having such a conversation? The least the OP could say is "Next time I'm there, I'll try and score a pic." Saying "If you want to see it, go there yourself" is just lame.
The OP lives in Keumcheon apparently. The vast majority of us do not live in Keumcheon. So is it better for all of us to trek out to Keumcheon on the chance that we might get to see this cleaning crew, or should the OP try and score a pic and throw it up there? |
Common courtesy for who exactly? The op posted about something that he found odd. I don't agree that it's his/her onus to provide a pic to satisfy the reader. He said, hell even gave you a map, where this happened. Is it really his responsibility to take pictures (risking a potentially negative situation for himself) just to prove that it happened. You can either believe what he said and take it for what it is or you can take your happy arse up there and see for yourself if you are skeptical. Or, even better, you can just sit at your keyboard and do nothing whether you believe it to be true one way or the other.
Really, SR is it necessary for people to have to provide pics these days to back up posts? That is falling into the realm of that pretentious poster that shows up demanding stats and links for everything. |
I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
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byrddogs

Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
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| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| optik404 wrote: |
| Would like to see pics. |
If you care enough about the issue, go to the Homeplus store.
I thought it was strange enough to call for a post to Dave's, but I'm not aiming to write a news article about it. |
Thanks. I'll just take a 3 hour bus ride and spend 40 bucks each way to check on that.  |
So, instead you'd like the op to go and take pictures for you to satisfy your curiosity?  |
Well if the OP is going to post about, common courtesy and sensible writing dictates that they supply some pics.
"There's this statue in Ansan that looks like George Costanza picking his nose."
"Really? You got a pic?"
"If you want to see it, head out to Ansan yourself."
Can you imagine having such a conversation? The least the OP could say is "Next time I'm there, I'll try and score a pic." Saying "If you want to see it, go there yourself" is just lame.
The OP lives in Keumcheon apparently. The vast majority of us do not live in Keumcheon. So is it better for all of us to trek out to Keumcheon on the chance that we might get to see this cleaning crew, or should the OP try and score a pic and throw it up there? |
Common courtesy for who exactly? The op posted about something that he found odd. I don't agree that it's his/her onus to provide a pic to satisfy the reader. He said, hell even gave you a map, where this happened. Is it really his responsibility to take pictures (risking a potentially negative situation for himself) just to prove that it happened. You can either believe what he said and take it for what it is or you can take your happy arse up there and see for yourself if you are skeptical. Or, even better, you can just sit at your keyboard and do nothing whether you believe it to be true one way or the other.
Really, SR is it necessary for people to have to provide pics these days to back up posts? That is falling into the realm of that pretentious poster that shows up demanding stats and links for everything. |
I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
Uggh...the op doesn't need to provide pics to substantiate shit to you f'n (me included) people on this site. It was not bad form; it was a form that you specifically disagreed with. Does that make it bad? |
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DanseurVertical
Joined: 24 Nov 2010
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
I was replying to someone whose only engagement in the discussion was the sentence, "Would like to see pics."
If someone thinks I made the story up, go to the Homeplus store for yourself.
You yourself can't very well do that Steelrails, but someone else can.
One of the major questions I raised in the OP is whether or not Korean people learn about the Third Reich. I mean, somebody found this emblem somewhere - did the person truly know nothing of its history?
I did not intend the OP to be a story like the Lock Ness Monster. These workers are at Homeplus everyday, I assume. I had not expected people to be skeptical, or for that to become the main issue of the discussion. Even if I had taken and shared a picture, how would you know that it's at Homeplus in Korea? Or that the picture is of an employee uniform? |
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optik404

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
I was replying to someone whose only engagement in the discussion was the sentence, "Would like to see pics."
If someone thinks I made the story up, go to the Homeplus store for yourself.
You yourself can't very well do that Steelrails, but someone else can.
One of the major questions I raised in the OP is whether or not Korean people learn about the Third Reich. I mean, somebody found this emblem somewhere - did the person truly know nothing of its history?
I did not intend the OP to be a story like the Lock Ness Monster. These workers are at Homeplus everyday, I assume. I had not expected people to be skeptical, or for that to become the main issue of the discussion. Even if I had taken and shared a picture, how would you know that it's at Homeplus in Korea? Or that the picture is of an employee uniform? |
Gee, a bit defensive are we?
Nobody is thinking you made it up. If you post about something interesting you saw, naturally people are going to want to see a pic of it.  |
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Old fat expat

Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Braaah haaaa haaaaa!!!!!!
Only on Dave's would there be an argument about posting pictures when the site doesn't allow the posting of pictures. |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| DanseurVertical wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| I didn't expect pics when I read the OP. But then someone asked if he had a pic and he gave a rather flippant reply. It was just bad form- Posting something and then telling everyone else "Well if you care so much about it, why don't you go there?" Not, "Didn't have a chance to get a pic, if anyone is in that area, maybe they can get one?" Or "Anyone visit that Costco? Can they confirm?" etc. etc. |
I was replying to someone whose only engagement in the discussion was the sentence, "Would like to see pics."
If someone thinks I made the story up, go to the Homeplus store for yourself.
You yourself can't very well do that Steelrails, but someone else can.
One of the major questions I raised in the OP is whether or not Korean people learn about the Third Reich. I mean, somebody found this emblem somewhere - did the person truly know nothing of its history?
I did not intend the OP to be a story like the Lock Ness Monster. These workers are at Homeplus everyday, I assume. I had not expected people to be skeptical, or for that to become the main issue of the discussion. Even if I had taken and shared a picture, how would you know that it's at Homeplus in Korea? Or that the picture is of an employee uniform? |
Don't sweat it, man. Your experience vaguely hints at something negative about Korea, so to some people here it will never be true. Even if you provided pics, they would say it was photoshopped or staged or out of context. If you proved that wasn't the case then they would find something on the internet from 2003 in the US where a corporation did something stupid and blame you for ignoring things from home while criticizing Korea. Or they'll call you oversensitive or that the Nazis weren't that bad or that, if you turn your head juuuuuuuust right it's actually a Buddhist symbol with a dove flying over it. Your experiences are not real unless they align perfectly with these people's pre-conceived ideas about Korea. Don't believe for one minute that pictures would change anything. |
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