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School is making the staff work on Hangul Day...
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beentheredonethat777



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I beg to differ. You can bring someone to court for breach of contract (a pain in the butt, but it can be done). In the case of a labor dispute, you deal with the labor board. If a contract is notarized, it's good as gold as long as it follows the law.
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Everyone who keeps commenting about my two cents worth of input to the OP is PROVING my point, without realizing it. Without involving the labor board, revelant authorities, courts, arbitration, mediation, etc... the contract, as my first boss put it years ago, is" just a piece of paper." Please, do tell, if there is anyone reading this who would go actually go to court over Hangul Day?
To say that my post is "completely untrue", The UrbanMyth,is stretching the truth just a little bit,wouldn't you say?

If the Korean bosses thought the contract was valid instrument of the law, as it is in the US, they wouldn't be so quick to swindle, cheat, and ignore its content at will. Does this make sense to anyone besides me?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beentheredonethat777 wrote:



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Everyone who keeps commenting about my two cents worth of input to the OP is PROVING my point, without realizing it. Without involving the labor board, revelant authorities, courts, arbitration, mediation, etc... the contract, as my first boss put it years ago, is" just a piece of paper." Please, do tell, if there is anyone reading this who would go actually go to court over Hangul Day?
To say that my post is "completely untrue", The UrbanMyth,is stretching the truth just a little bit,wouldn't you say?

If the Korean bosses thought the contract was valid instrument of the law, as it is in the US, they wouldn't be so quick to swindle, cheat, and ignore its content at will. Does this make sense to anyone besides me?


Not stretching the truth at all. Let's look at your claim and analyze it.

You said (and I quote)

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Here's the tricky part PatrickBateman, contracts mean ALMOST nothing in Korea. Are you from America? If so, DISREGARD every and any idea you have about contracts. They don't carry the same weight. In fact, they're almost WEIGHTLESS. Word of mouth weighs a TON, written words weigh less than the paper upon which they are written.


You did NOT say "contracts means almost nothing to KOREAN BOSSES.

"Korea" on the other hand includes "the labor board, revelant authorities, courts, arbitration, mediation, etc..."

Most of those take the contract very seriously indeed...there have been plenty of teachers over the years here who have managed to use one or more of the above to get what they were owned.

To add to that there is also this to consider:

Some unscrupulous Korean bosses do not equate to ALL of Korea...they don't even equate to ALL or even most Korean bosses.
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beentheredonethat777



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not stretching the truth at all. Let's look at your claim and analyze it.

You said (and I quote)

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Here's the tricky part PatrickBateman, contracts mean ALMOST nothing in Korea. Are you from America? If so, DISREGARD every and any idea you have about contracts. They don't carry the same weight. In fact, they're almost WEIGHTLESS. Word of mouth weighs a TON, written words weigh less than the paper upon which they are written.


You did NOT say "contracts means almost nothing to KOREAN BOSSES.

"Korea" on the other hand includes "the labor board, revelant authorities, courts, arbitration, mediation, etc..."

Most of those take the contract very seriously indeed...there have been plenty of teachers over the years here who have managed to use one or more of the above to get what they were owned.

To add to that there is also this to consider:

Some unscrupulous Korean bosses do not equate to ALL of Korea...they don't even equate to ALL or even most Korean bosses.[/quote]

I stand corrected. Thank you for expressing so eloquently what I was trying to say. :oops:Korean bosses!
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