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Question: Having a child without marriage-good or bad idea?
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to ask, then the answer is obvious.
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Lucas



Joined: 11 Sep 2012

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Having a kid is no way to shore up a fragile relationship or a fragile sense of self.

Also seems to me some women do it purely to gain social status.

Having kids is outdated, the thinking behind it belongs in the 1920's or something. Change the record for pitys sakes.

It was OK when there there were few enough of us to not do much damage to the environment.

But now? There's already 7.2 Billion people on the earth and the vast majority are trashing the planet into oblivion.

Seriously... there are better ways to give your life meaning.

If you absolutely have to, then adopt. Plenty of abandoned babies out there in need of a loving home.


I bet you're one of 'those' foreigners who adopts stray cats from the streets of Korea, and then let them piss all over your apt and then leave it for someone else to clean up.

I also bet a starving African child could pick enough food out of your hair to feed their whole family for a week!
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to marry her to get Korean residency. Without residency, you're only as good as your next E2 Visa. Kind of hard to be a good dad with that uncertainty.
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cari83



Joined: 20 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
Having a kid is no way to shore up a fragile relationship or a fragile sense of self.

Also seems to me some women do it purely to gain social status.

Having kids is outdated, the thinking behind it belongs in the 1920's or something. Change the record for pitys sakes.

It was OK when there there were few enough of us to not do much damage to the environment.

But now? There's already 7.2 Billion people on the earth and the vast majority are trashing the planet into oblivion.

Seriously... there are better ways to give your life meaning.

If you absolutely have to, then adopt. Plenty of abandoned babies out there in need of a loving home.


Yeah I bet you're one of "those" foreigners, who care about the environment and animals. Ugh. How wrong. Smile
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postfundie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Having a kid is no way to shore up a fragile relationship or a fragile sense of self.

Also seems to me some women do it purely to gain social status.

Having kids is outdated, the thinking behind it belongs in the 1920's or something. Change the record for pitys sakes.

It was OK when there there were few enough of us to not do much damage to the environment.

But now? There's already 7.2 Billion people on the earth and the vast majority are trashing the planet into oblivion.

Seriously... there are better ways to give your life meaning.

If you absolutely have to, then adopt. Plenty of abandoned babies out there in need of a loving home
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This is correct.  We need to lay off on the having kids thing...well maybe one wouldn't hurt
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucas wrote:
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Having a kid is no way to shore up a fragile relationship or a fragile sense of self.

Also seems to me some women do it purely to gain social status.

Having kids is outdated, the thinking behind it belongs in the 1920's or something. Change the record for pitys sakes.

It was OK when there there were few enough of us to not do much damage to the environment.

But now? There's already 7.2 Billion people on the earth and the vast majority are trashing the planet into oblivion.

Seriously... there are better ways to give your life meaning.

If you absolutely have to, then adopt. Plenty of abandoned babies out there in need of a loving home.


I bet you're one of 'those' foreigners who adopts stray cats from the streets of Korea, and then let them piss all over your apt and then leave it for someone else to clean up.

I also bet a starving African child could pick enough food out of your hair to feed their whole family for a week!


Your brain is the size of a pea.

Ur a walking argument for population control.
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radcon



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many people have kids for the sole reason that they just believe its what people are supposed to do. This happens in all rich nations but it seems more pronounced in Korea. I have seen so many thirty something people go from 1. There is no one I am dating now to 2. married with spouse in ONE year's time. A lot of them end up miserable. When I tell the Koreans around me that I will never have kids (possibly adoption), most are in shock and pity me.
Let's not even get started on the attitudes towards breeding that people from poor nations have.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Population control- A bit like tax hikes. Everyone is for it on someone else, but when they come to your door, people give excuse.

Until people are running with cash to the vasectomy clinic and voluntarily euthanizing themselves at 65, I won't give much credence to their views.

Actions, not talking points.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Population control- A bit like tax hikes. Everyone is for it on someone else, but when they come to your door, people give excuse.

Until people are running with cash to the vasectomy clinic and voluntarily euthanizing themselves at 65, I won't give much credence to their views.

Actions, not talking points.

Those are your solutions for population control?
hmmm...if I have to ask, then the answer is obvious.
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atwood



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good question, at least regarding the legal ramifications, and usually it is better for the child if the parents are married and the parents may also get benefits such as tax deductions for childcare, medical bills, stc.

But how that applies to Korea I don't know, so I think it behooves you to check into all that. You want to do what's best for the kid.

Then there's the stigma of being illegitimate. That's probably no day at the beach in Korea.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
I say go for it...

Anyways, maybe she thinks it gets her a ticket to America. But that only applies to the child.


If her child is American doesn't that pretty much allow her to stay with her child and eventually get citizenship? I don't know.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sir David Attenborough: If we do not control population, the natural world will
7:00AM BST 18 Sep 2013

Attempting to solve famine in Africa by simply sending flour bags is “barmy”, Sir David Attenborough has said, as he argued it was nature’s response to too many people and not enough land.


Sir David, who is soon to present a programme on human beings, said population control was a “huge area of concern”, adding the world was “heading for disaster unless we do something”.


He warned if humans do not act soon, the “natural world will do something”, as he argues famine in Ethiopia is about “too many people for too little piece of land”.

He suggested humans are "blinding ourselves" to the problem, claiming: "We say, get the United Nations to send them bags of flour. That's barmy.”

When asked about comments he made on population control earlier this year, when he said human beings were a “plague on the Earth, Sir David agreed they could be considered “blindingly obvious” but claimed nobody else had made the point publicly.

Just keep on about it. Just keep on about it,” he said, when asked about the next step to solving the problem. “You know and I know that there are huge, huge sensitivities involved in this.

“To start with, it is the individual's great privilege to have children. And who am I to say that you shan't have children? That's one thing.

“Then the next thing is that there's a religious one, in the sense that the Catholic Church doesn't accept this. That you should control the population.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10316271/Sir-David-Attenborough-If-we-do-not-control-population-the-natural-world-will.html
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having kids = bad idea. Getting married = bad idea.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Question: Having a child without marriage-good or bad id Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
The behavior she's suggesting is very common among America's urban poor. Is that the population group you want to emulate?


Exactly.

Or look at the Philippines for another example of a population with poor decision making skills.
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Lucas



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your brain is the size of a pea.

Ur a walking argument for population control.


But I have a small head because if it. Thats why Koreans love me! Very Happy
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